From: Ada Clapp
To: Jeffrey Epstein <jeevacation@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Clean up Income Tax Inefficient Loans
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 03:23:47 +0000
Just easier to repay notes with cash. It could all be securities.
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Ada
On Nov I, 2013, at 10:39 PM, Jeffrey Epstein <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote:
why not all in securities
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Ada < > wrote:
It would have to be in both. Not enough cash in the LLC
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On Nov 1, 2013, at 8:23 PM, Jeffrey Epstein <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote:
the liquidating distribuionn would be in cash or securities?
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 8:11 PM, Ada Clapp < wrote:
HI Jeffrey,
Here are some numbers for you:
Option 1.
atsp one Each child's trust would receive roughly $5 million. Trustee would exercise power to adjust and
it would go to principal and be used to pay off notes of equal amount. Afterward, each child's
descendant's trust would have cash in it.
atspa$3.25 MM) and Josh's ($5.8 MM) 2011 trusts would then borrow from the 2006 trust (or
BFP) and use the funds to pay off the notes held in their includible trusts
Option 2. Same steps and dollars as in Option 1 above but we would probably do this with BFP interests
instead or marketable securities.
Option 3. Same dollar amounts and results as in Options land 2 but a lot of notes to keep track of.
Option 4. I understand that the LDB 2011 LLC has roughly $300 million in it, so a liquidating
distribution litre a distribution to each child's trust of roughly $15 million. That would leave
$10 million h and- trusts (after paying off their notes to the 2006 Trust) and roughly $7
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million aTrust and $4.2 million in Josh's Trust (after paying off the notes to their descendants
trusts and their includible trusts). They be entitled to the income earned on these amounts starting
at age 25 (so and Josh right away very soon, I think).
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On Oct 31, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Jeffrey Epstein leevacation@gmail.com> wrote:
i need the numbers to make a decsion.
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Alan S Halperin cza wrote:
There are four ways of proceeding with respect to the proposed transfer to clean up the tax-
inefficient loans. I recommend either of the first two approaches noted below, with a
preference to the first one..
1. The LLC could distribute cash, pro rata, to the four trusts. While under the default rules,
the distribution would be characterized as fiduciary accounting income, and therefore
distributable t and Josh (and therefore not available to pay down the loans), the
Trustees coul use their power to adjust under Section 61-104 to recharacterize the
distribution as principal and not income. I am attaching a copy of the Delaware statute. We
would prepare a trustee resolution describing the decision by the Trustees. This approach
only applies to the extent the flow of funds are proportionate (and presumably to the extent
that the distribution is relatively substantial). To the extent additional money is needed for
Josh's Trust and Ben's Trust, some entity with respect to which Leon is deemed the owner —
say a grantor trust or Black Family Partners — could loan funds to their trusts. We could
take these steps at the end of November, once the next Apollo dividend hits.
2. Alternatively, the LLC could distribute "property," rather than money. To that end, the LLC
could distribute publicly traded securities. Such a distribution would constitute principal. In
6 weeks or so, the Trustees could sell the securities and use the proceeds, as principal, to
pay off debt. Again, this plan works to the extent of proportionate distributions. Any
additional amounts needed for Josh's Trust or Ben's Trust could be handled via a loan, as
noted in the prior paragraph.
3. The LLC could loan all of the funds. The loan is treated as principal.
4. The LLC could make a liquidating distribution representing 20% of the value of the LLC.
I am happy to discuss.
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