From: jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 4:49 PM
To: Bob Berwick
Subject: Re:
worse, danny kahnemans work woudl suggest=that positive sentiment is expressed once you are already the
owner.=C240 not predictive of future, so that if you own china , you=speak highly of it. and then when they devalue
everyone is cau=ht with their pants down.
re the chomsky=challenge I will fund. and my only role is to stim=late conversation amongst you and your colleagues
how best to stimul=te the science.
On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Bob Berw=ck > wrote:
Hah. All lineages go extin=t. One interesting thing that Steve Gould noted was that this takes about =he same
time for all vertebrates....
For fads too.
On Sep 5, 2015, at 12:16 PM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com <mailto:jeevac=tion@gmail.com> wrote:
=br>
it will " ev=lve" ::))
<berwick@cs=il.mit.edu wrote:
Jeffrey
So your view is that the socia= media jazz is a fad that will fizzle and fade fairly soon, no?
=ob
On Sep 5, 2015, at 11:00 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com>=wrote:
i will=spend all the time you like teaching you about investing and the markets.=C2*
simpler than it appears.. = would like chomsky to follow in the footsteps of hibert, turi=g , and encourage work in
their fiels by presenting goals to the dis=iples.
=n Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Bob Berwick wrote:
Hi Jeffrey,
Ah very cool.
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So let me try a few out.
I guess it par=ly (! of course!) depends on how much we get to stick into the
box.
<=iv>I'm fine with prize money, mostly because as you know from Marv=n,
there's no
way to get funding for "real•=9D problems like these or those that Marvin
studies,
nsf & d=rpa and toyota (as you just saw) only care about self-driving cars.
<=iv>So I'd be overjoyed to get some way to fund new students.=A6.
Challenge 1. Discriminating lang=age from noise.
This is doable. Partha Niyogi nearly did i=. A six-month effort.
Challenge 2.4>=A0 Ah, depends on the sentences and what 'coherent'
means.=/div>
Does Noam mean 'screwed up in some way'? W='re not so far from that.
Further than 1. That sys=em I showed you that can isolate difft factors in
*syntax*
as a =mall set of constraints can do some of that.
Recall Shimon Ullma='s 'rigidity principle' about the interpretation o= points
moving
in the visual field - same coherence idea.
<=iv>
Challenges 3 and 4 are much harder, we'd have to=know more about 'meaning'
and 'inference'.=/div>
I wouldn't be happy with statistical curve fitting here.=/div>
Finally - though I will drop this, because your t=me is too valuable and the
problems you and
Noam pose are the im=ortant ones, to me — what was your estimate of how
much that
=div>twitter-in-love entrepeneur would have lost if he did honestly follow =is
twitter-predictor during
the first week of this month? = guess I am still baffled about the "market" for
their pro=uct unless
it's as you say, the market for the new, shin= toys - which is just about
salesmanship, not
science. Any=ay, I'll drop it - I was just curious as why/how 'any' of that soc=al
media stuff
would work. I suppose they will say that th=y have 300 M users, not 'all' of
them will be lying...
and=one can sort the liars from the non-liars....but so what?
=br>
best wishes bob
On Sep 5, 2015, at 8=20 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com
<mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com» wrote:
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noam, as always , spending time . was great/ 4>=A0 first draft. of the
Chomsky Challenge. .=C240 Produce a non- living system that can be put into an environme=t for a while and --- 1 .
be able to d=scriminate language from noise. . priz= . a 1 dollar bill signed by Noam and 100k. ...AO 2. be able to
discriminate coherent sentences f=om non ( we provide 10 test sentences ). prize a =0 dollar signed Chomsky bill ,
and 500k. 3. a lang=age learning module. 20 dollar bill signed and 1million, 4. a=sense making module that can
understand meaning inference. . etc.40=A0 the non recommendation recommendation. .=C24)ie the student has a
nice family= etc. a 100 dollar signed bill and 10 million dollars. ?=--- If your left leaning , is in conflict with a money
prize, we co=ld substitute </=pan>---your prize =money goes to charity,- airline tickets to the Gaz= strip. - Nicaragua,
North Korea, . and 1000 blank ,protest placards ?4>=A0 or top prize includes 1000 protesters of your choice =or three
demonstrations :)
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