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1 DIGITALLY RECORDED SWORN STATEMENT OF OIG CASE 4: 2019-010614 /-1 iS4/ I eir DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL AUGUST 12, 2019 FENTON TRANSCRIPTION 28720 Roadside Drive, Suite 250 Agoura Hills CA 91301 Phone: SDNY_00007896 EFTA_00001020 EFTA00135369 2 APPEARANCES: OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL BY: 1; 4 14I lY BY: WITNESS: 4 4/e OTHER APPEARANCES: SDNY_00007897 EFTA_00001021 EFTA00135370 3 1 MR. : Today is Monday, August 2 12. The following will be a voluntary 3 interview of BOP in 4 furtherance of OIG investigation to be determined, for the purpose of transcription, 6 will now identify all present in the interview. 7 I'll ask everyone to say and spell their last 8 name, as well as identify their working title 9 and employer. • 10 I am Special Agent 11 , Office of the Iris e .or General. • 12 MR. Special Agent 13 II with the FBI. 14 EMPLOYEE 15 Federal Bureau of Prison5. Mina 16 17 18 19 MR. : Thank you. EMPLOYEE 20 21 IrglaKCIAigtell Um-hum. 22 MR. : -- you have reviewed and 23 signed Department of Justice OIG Form 226-2 24 which is Warnings and Assurances of Employees 25 Request to Provide Information on a Voluntary SDNY_00007898 EFTA_00001022 EFTA00135371 4 1 Basis. Do you have any questions about this 2 form? 3 No. 4 MR. : Would you like time to 5 review it with an attorney, or would you like 6 an attorney here? 7 EMPLOYEE 22 For now, I don't need an 8 attorney. 9 MR. : Okay. Are you currently 10 under the influence of any substances, or is 11 there any reason to prevent you from fully 12 understanding my questions and answering 13 truthfully today? as. 14 EMPLOYEE 15 MR. I'll now swear you to the 16 statements you're about to make. Please raise N\ 17 your hand and repeat after me. 18 MR. : Hereby solemnly swear or O1 22 affirm. miummum Hereby solemnly swear or 23 affirm. 24 MR. : That the statements that 25 I'm about to make. CCIIIIIIIP SDNY_00007899 EFTA_00001023 EFTA00135372 5 1 EMPLOYEE 22 That the statements I'm 2 about to make. 3 MR. : Shall be the truth and the 4 whole truth. 5 F2,1P -' Shall be the truth and the 6 whole truth. 7 MR. : Thank you, sir. 8 EMPLOYEE Um-hum. 9 MR. : Warden would you mind 10 telling us a little bit about your career with 11 BOP? When you started, how you became a 12 Warden? 13 roggioynistrom 14 . hu. you moved up the A, 15 ranks. 16 makesurtam I started out as a sinr lk 17 Correctional Officer, and I was promoted to a 18 Lieutenant. From there, I went to Special 19 Investigative Agent at our regional office, and 20 then I went from there, I was promoted to 21 Captain, and then I was Associate Warden, and 22 then from there I went to DC as a Chief 23 Internal Affairs, and now in my present 24 position. 25 MR. : Great. How long have you SONY 00007900 EFTA_00001024 EFTA00135373 6 1 been the Warden? 2 EMPLOYEE I've been here since May of 3 2018. 4 MR. : Okay, great. Just, your 5 role, you've done a lot of internal 6 investigations with the prison and you've 7 worked with the Department of Justice kle 8 EMPLOYEE Um-hum. 9 MR. moving forwar just as 10 a note for the record, you're aware that 11 failure to be honest with us today would be 12 considered a criminal offense; correct? 13 Irm3flynomolg Yes. 14 Okay, great. Let's talk a 15 little bit about some overall policies at the 16 prison to start with. 17 pV Okay. 18 MR. : So, actually let me back 19 up. We're here today to talk about, 20 specifically Jeffrey Epstein. 21 ILVISMIIII Um-hum. 22 MR. : The inmate. 23 raf[O 13O. 41. Um-hum. 24 MR. : Would you mind just 25 telling us a little bit about when, your SDNY_00007901 EFTA_00001025 EFTA00135374 7 1 understanding of when he arrived and that type 2 of, when he arrived, how he was placed, where 3 he was placed, and the reasons behind that? 4 EMPLOYEE 22 I don't remember the 5 specific date he arrived, but we didn't, what_‘ It' 6 happened was, we weren't told that he was going 7 to be coming to the institution. 8 MR. : Okay. A 9 gpmsommostill When he initially came, he 10 was dropped off on the weekend, and we didn't 11 find out until Monday, myself, that he had been 12 placed at the institution. And from then on, 13 we, you know, went through the whole process of 14 the screening, his medical stuff. Just normal 15 procedures that we follow and (Indiscernible 16 *00:04:04). , 14lir 17 MR. Okay. Now when you say 18 "he was dropped off over the weekend", when 19 somebody arrives at the facility, what's the 20 normal -- 21 I mean typically if 22 somebody's that high profile -- 23 MR. : Um-hum. 24 NUMINUMO -- we should've been 25 notified and said hey, he's coming in. We SDNY_00007902 EFTA_00001026 EFTA00135375 8 1 weren't. 2 MR. : Okay. 3 You know, I mean, we saw it 4 on the news, but it didn't say. They just said 5 they had him in custody, but we didn't get any 6 formal, I didn't get any formal notice that he 7 had been brought into the institution. 8 So, he was dropped off, and you know, the 9 Lieutenant on shift processed him in and 10 brought him into the institution. We didn't 11 find out or realize it until Monday. 12 MR. : So, it was Monday that you 13 first were officially made aware of it? 14 EMPLOYEE 2 That I was made aware. You 15 know, we found out, and I don't remember if it 16 was from looking at the news reports, we put it 17 together that he had been brought into the 18 institution. We went through our Monday 19 morning meeting that we went through. So, 20 that's when -- 21 MR. : When he first arrived, was 22 he placed in general population? Do you know 23 where he was placed? 24 I don't recall where he was 25 placed when he came in. SDNY_00007903 EFTA_00001027 EFTA00135376 9 1 MR. : At some point, he was 2 placed in Special Housing Unit? 3 Yes. 4 : Known as the SHU. EMPLOYEE Right. 6 : how did he end up there? 7 ratasionstary Well, he was a new 8 commitment. He was high profile. So, we 9 placed him in the Special Housing Unit so we 10 can further evaluate, you know, his status. Is 11 he ready for general population? And we do 12 that with all inmates, but --4I 13 MR. : Okay. 14 EMPLOYEE -- and then to see, okay, 15 any separation issues. Any threats to him, 16 before we put him out there in general 17 population. 18 MR. : Was he ever in general 19 population? 20 I don't recall. I don't, 21 I'm not sure if it might've been the first day 22 when he came in. 23 MR. : Okay. 24 L:41_:. But I'm not sure, so I mean, 25 I would have to look at the 37 to confirm. SONY 00007904 EFTA_00001028 EFTA00135377 10 1 MR. : But as far as you know, 2 that Monday, the first business day after the 3 weekend he was initially dropped off. 4 Right. 5 MR. : From that point forward, 6 was he ever in general population? 7 No. 8 MR. : Okay. What are the 9 policies in terms of, or is there policy that 10 dictates when somebody goes into general 11 population from the SHU after the first 12 arrival? 13 minummual 'Jell, what we do is we 14 evaluate the individual to see if they're ready 15 for general population, if they can hang, you 16 know -- 17 C jims : Um-hum. 18 -- if they can populate. MR : Okay. 44 3,sb l LAI_ I.L_ And it's a number of O cloeullimp 1 factors. It depends. I mean, if I have a gang 22 member coming in, I'm taking into consideration 2 23 separation issues on it. If it's, you know, 24 somebody that might've been fraud or bank 4q1 25 fraud, then we determine if it's any issues of SDNY_00007905 EFTA_00001029 EFTA00135378 11 1 them going into the general population. So, 2 it's a case-by-case basis on how we determine 3 it. 4 MR. : Okay. What are the 5 policies in terms of when you're notified if 6 someone enters Special Housing Unit or is 7 discharged from Special Housing Unit? 8 LA1_ Well what it is is, it's 9 routed the individual, it's called a Release 10 Form. So, several people sign it. They review 11 it. I believe psychology, CMC, the Captain, 12 and it goes to the Associate Warden and then 13 they sign what we call is a Kick-Out. Meaning 14 everybody's reviewed i5;land said, okay, this 15 person is appropriate for general population 16 MR. : Okay. For Mr. Epstein, 17 after that, he was never put in general 18 population; correct? 19 IIIIIIIIIIII No. 20 MR. : Was the determination to 21 keep him in Special Housing? What was the 4 .00122 communication that goes on there? / 1 1(lpillim. 23 Well we, now initially when al.eLOYEE 22 24 he came in, it's the goal to determine, okay, 25 can they go to general population. c SONY 00007906 EFTA 00001030 EFTA00135379 12 1 : Okay. 2 EMPLOYEE So, between evaluating him, 3 at the same time, we're looking at saying, 4 okay, can he go to general population. 5 MR. : Um-hum. 6 EMPLOYEE So, it's a dual role th 7 we're going to -- 8 MR. : Sure. /Or 9 ipmaosoommig But I had gotten word, and I 10 don't recall the date, where from my Regional 11 Director which stated he's not to go to general 12 population until further notice. 13 MR. : The Regional Director, 14 where is that in the chain of command for BOP? 15 ipomigovoommig We have five regional 16 offices. Nk 17 MR. : Okay. J 18 Each region has a Regional 19 Director. 20 MR. : Okay. 21 This is the Northeast 22 Region. 23 MR. : Okay. 24 rwpaswmpatm Where we have 21 25 institutions. So, he supervises and is in SDNY_00007907 EFTA_00001031 EFTA00135380 13 1 charge of the 21 institutions. 2 MR. : Okay. So, is he -- 3 (Indiscernible *00:08:37). 4 MR. : -- your direct supervisor? 5 L It _ He's my director supervisor. 6 MR. : Okay. Who is that? (phonetic sp.). tinaosogeom Yeah. 10 MR. : And told you, 11 do you recall if it was verbally or an email? 12 Phone call? .‘1 1414 13 magagung We had talked about it, too, 14 but I would have to check if there was an email 15 to go with it. But we did talk and said, hey, 16 we're going to hold off on putting him out in 5=-J 17 general population. 18 MR. : Okay. Do you recall when 19 you officially were, you and , spoke 20 about this? 21 ENP-OYE- 22 I don't want to give you the 22 wrong date. But it was within that, you know, 23 maybe a couple weeks after he arrived. 24 MR. : Okay. So, it was a few 25 weeks after he arrived -- SDNY_00007908 EFTA_00001032 EFTA00135381 14 1 Right. 2 MR. : Okay. After 3 told you to keep him, or it was agreed upon -- 4 Um-hum. 5 MR. : -- to keep him in Special 6 Housing Unit. 7 Right. 8 MR. : Who did you notify that he 9 was to stay in the Special Housing Unit? How 10 does that communication -- 11 EMPLOYEE So, what ! IV,ibs is I get my 12 exec staff together -- 13 MR. Um-hum. 14 rimummommtil -- which is my Associate 15 Wardens, the captain, my exec, and we have our 16 meetings, and I tell them he's not, you know, I 17 lay out the specific instructions. He's not to 18 go out to general population. And -- MR . : Were there, sorry. EMPLOYEE L. Go ahead. MR. : No. EMPLOYEE And that's basically how we 23 start. 24 MR. : Okay. 25 Yeah. SDNY_000079O9 EFTA_00001033 EFTA00135382 15 1 MR. : Were there any other 2 specific directions or instructions given to 3 the staff regarding him? 4 Well, so at the time of him is:Sfr 5 staying in there, we had to find him initially, 6 a roommate. 7 MR. : Okay. 8 L_!1_" So, and it's hard especially 9 in Special Housing Unit when you've got gang 10 members in there that are not appropriate to be 11 housed with. So, we came up with, I came up 12 with Tartaglione, who was in there. White 13 male, probably be able to cope with him. And 14 that's typically how we, you know, that's part 15 of the evaluation process. 16 MR. : Is it standard for inmates 17 in Special Housing Unit to have cellmates? 18 milimiggi We typically would like for 19 them to have it. 20 MR. : Sure. 21 IUMMIIIIIIII But certain situations 22 dictate that they can. If an inmate's a total 23 separation from a group, and we get word from 24 US Attorney's office or the arresting agents 25 that, hey, he's to be totally separated, then SDNY_00007910 EFTA_00001034 EFTA00135383 16 1 they would be housed by themselves. They could 2 have an incident in the institution, you know, 3 for example our gang members, somebody has an 4 issue, and for example, the Bloods, then we 5 have to say hey, let's separate him from there. 6 You know? 7 MR. : Was there any directions 8 specifically that Mr. Epstein was to have a 9 cellmate at all times? 10 Immussi From psychology when -- 11 : Okay. 12 oprzizocatineat said hey, that he's 13 required, he needs to have a cellmate at all 14 times. 15 MR. : Okay. And that occurred 16 later on? When he first arrived, there was no Nk 17 specific directions regarding that; correct? 18 guissiggi No, it wasn't. 19 : Okay. 20 EMPLOYEE L.- Wait, let me. 21 MR. : Sure. You mean when he first came 4(4?::t 11)2: in were we talking about him having a cellmate? 24 MR. : Initially. 25 L:11 _ I don't recall any talks SDNY_00007911 EFTA_00001035 EFTA00135384 17 1 about him. 2 MR. : Okay. 3 Initially, and trying to 4 figure out when he first came in, how he was 5 housed. I don't recall how he was housed when 6 he first came in, but -- 7 MR. : Okay. The MCC is 8 stranger to high profile -- 9 irinaosmemil Right. 10 MR. : -- inmates. Generally 11 speaking, how do you normally, or generally 12 handle these type of high profile inmates? Any 13 other special considerations or concerns. How 14 does this work? 15 potaistordaine4‘ Again, you come in. We 16 evaluate him to determine, okay, if they can go 17 out to general population or not. We've had, 18 you know, we've had a bunch that come in that 19 were able to go out. We had Siock (phonetic 20 sp.), you know, the phone that, I don't know if 21 you recall, the one that sent the bombs to the LOO1 22 ex-presidents. 1(lpillim. 23 MR. III: (Indiscernible *00:12:41) 24 MR. : Okay. 25 Him. So, when he first came SDNY_00007912 EFTA_00001036 EFTA00135385 18 1 in, you know, he was high profile. So, we 2 brought him in to determine 3 FEMALE VOICE: Excuse me. 4 Yeah. 5 FEMALE VOICE: Can you guys step out here 6 for just a moment? 7 MR. : We, pausing the in 8 at 10:55 a.m. (tape paused). 9 We're resuming the interview wit 10 11 12 MR. IIIIIII; 13 irgoamoostim Yeah. 14 (Indiscernible *00:00:14). 15 The time is now 10:56. Joining the interview 16 room is Assisting United States Attorney from • 17 the Southern District of New 18 19 MS. 20 MR. , I apologize. 1 Can you spell your name for transcription 22 purposes? 4(4iihir 23 MS. : Sure. 24 . Thanks. 25 MR. : Thank you. Before we were SDNY_00007913 EFfA_000O1037 EFTA00135386 19 1 just going over some of the overall high- 2 profile inmates and the general -- 3 Um-hum. 4 MR. : -- evaluation of them. 5 Going back to, you said earlier that a few 6 weeks had occurred. You and the Regional 7 Director discussed keeping Epstein in the a 8 Special Housing Unit. 9 irnaosmemil Um-hum. 10 MR. : How often was the Regional 11 Director being briefed on Epstein? 12 ipmulasmoomail I guess the situation 13 dictated it. If something happened, then we'd 14 notify him, or he needed some questions for 15 him, he would call me. But I don't want to, I 16 don't recall the specific amount of times. But 17 we were in contact. 18 MS. : Um-hum. Frequent contact. MR. : Okay. How often were you, 4 1.l are you notified differently of high-profile ci g imar 22 inmates or how often were you being aware or 23 notified of Epstein's housing situation? 24 masummull Well, I mean, he was in the 25 Special Housing Unit. So, I knew where he was. SDNY_00007914 EFTA_00001038 EFTA00135387 20 1 : Okay. 2 So, it wasn't like I had to 3 be updated as to where he was. I knew where he 4 was. 5 MR. : Okay. 6 I mean, I knew that he went 7 on his attorney visits, spent the whole day 8 there. Would be the first one in, last one 9 out. So, I mean, that's what I knew. And then 10 I kind of (Indiscernible *00:02:06) with the 11 attorneys. I had some outside attorneys 12 complain about, you know, they were taking up 'So, I knew that was, you 13 the attorney room.` 14 know, those issues were coming up with the 15 attorney room. s 16 MR. : Okay. Going back to 17 general policies at the -- 18 INWISIONOill Um-hum. 19 MR. : -- within the BOP, 20 actually when Epstein arrive 21 Um-hum. 22 MR. : I think we already 23 covered this, but just to, were any special 24 arrangements or considerations given to him? 25 As far as SONY_000079i5 EFTh_00001039 EFTA00135388 21 1 MR. : Obviously you said earlier 2 he was put in the SHU on Monday. 3 Right. 4 MR. : After, was it, at that 5 point, was there any issues that you're aware 6 of regarding him? Anything that you needed to 7 be aware of other than just who he was? 8 EMPLOYEE No. Just who he was and the 9 basic screening. The intake screening. 10 MR. : Okay. At the time he 11 first arrived, did you have any, was there any 12 notification of any mental health concerns? 13 IrwainToomoil No, not that I know of. 14 : Okay. How -- 15 rogiatolValeta% Are you talking about the 16 weekend he came in, or -- 17 MR. : Yeah. 18 mulimmullsi (Indiscernible *00:03:19). 19 MR. : First arrival. 20 EMPLOYEE That weekend, I don't know. 1 But I know afterwards, he was medically 2assessed and they were, you know, our health 23 service department assessed him and he, I think 24 he might have told him that he had certain 25 medications. SONY_00007916 EFTA_00001040 EFTA00135389 22 : Okay. When -- 2 EMPLOYEE -- that he was taking. 3 MR. : When inmates come into the 4 MCC, are they all screened for mental health 5 issues or medical issues? 6 Well, yes. They come in, 7 you're screened for your medical. The unit 8 team screens you and psychology screens you. 9 But -- 10 MR. : What timeframe does that 11 occur? 12 Typically like with him, he 13 came in on the weekend. So, it depends if 14 there was a psychologist. Maybe the next day 15 someone would go screen him, the on-call 16 psychologist. But, you know, or Monday if 17 someone came in. But typically the on-call 18 psychologist is there through the weekend and 19 will screen them. 20 MR. : Who is notified of the 21 results of those screenings? cessw - ‘,s , , 22 of? 23 MR. : Of the medical screen and 24 psychological screenings, who gets notified of 25 that? SDNY_00007917 EFTA_0000I041 EFTA00135390 23 1 As far as what? If they 2 find something in there? 3 MR. : Yes. 4 Like what would be an 5 example? I mean -- 6 MR. : Any medical concerns that 7 people need to be aware of. Any psychological 8 issues. How does that information get 9 disseminated? 1%b 10 Because when we talk about 11 medical issues, some of that falls under 12 privacy issues. SI\ '414 13 MR. Um-hum. 14 So, you know, it's not going 15 to be divulged as to 16 MR. : Okay. 17 -- just like that. 18 MR. : Sure. 19 But as far as psychological, 20 if it was something that psychologists did an 21 interview and said, hey, there's a mental 22 health issue or something, then she would, you 23 know, she would let her Associate Warden know. 24 She would let me know that, hey, there's some 25 issues. sixmLoommn EFTA_0000I042 EFTA00135391 24 1 MR. : Okay. And when he first 2 arrived, were you made aware of any medical or 3 mental issues regarding him? 4 EMPLOYEE 2 Mental health, I don't 5 recall any mental health. But I was told tha 6 he was on certain medications or whatever. 7 it was general. It wasn't -- 8 MR. : Okay. 3 9 ramcovmpooll -- anything major. 10 MR. : Okay. And just, and 11 that's a general policy /for all inmates that 12 arrive? 13 Irwamoomoll The screening, yeah. 14 : Just the medical 15 screening. They all get that? 16 IMEMINNIMIN Right. Nk 17 MR. : Is there any, as a result 18 of those screenings, is there any, does it have 19 any bearing on where they're placed, whether 20 it's special housing or general population? 21 I mean typically if you do, 22 like I said, if you do an intake screening and 23 the individual comes in and they have no 24 issues, no separation issues, and, you know, 25 then they can populate like anyone else. But SDNY_00007919 EFIA_00001043 EFTA00135392 25 1 if there are issues with them going out in 2 general population; i.e., safety issues, then 3 you would be placed in the Special Housing. 4 MR. : Okay. 5 ILIWSSUMWMI Until we could further 6 evaluate if you could go to general population. 7 MR. : If someone during the 8 mental health screening, the mental health, the 9 psychologist deemed them to be suicidal -- 10 Okay. esti 11 MR. : -- what are the suicidal 12 watch policies as it relates to that? 13 NIAWAIMMAI So, if the psychologist was 14 to say, hey, they're suicidal, then they would 15 be placed on suicide watch. 16 MR. : Okay. 17 Now if the psychologist is 4 18 not there and someone exhibits suicidal 19 ideations or statements or thoughts, then 20 they're placed on suicide watch. 21 MR. : Can you explain to me what 22 suicide watch is, where it is in the MCC -- 23 EMPLOYEE 22 It's on the second floor of 24 the institution, on the same floor of the 25 hospital. SDNY_00007920 EFTA_00001044 EFTA00135393 26 1 : Okay. 2 And it's a cell, and if you 3 go on suicide watch, you're placed in a smock. 4 MR. : Okay. 5 EMPLOYEE That covers you and then 6 you're watched for 24 hours. 7 MR. : Now the smock, is 8 made of paper, or -- 9 EMPLOYEE It's cloth. 10 Cloth? 11 It's like, you ever see 12 those movies where they have those heavy bomb 13 vests? 14 MR. : Uh -- 15 EMPLOYEE It's something, I mean, I 16 don't want to you know, say, but it's something 17 like that. 18 : Okay. FR sugamaill And it just hangs. 20 MR. : Sure. Hangs on them just like 91 2 that.Mahala 23 MR. : And you said they're 24 monitored for 24 hours. How are they, is it 25 There's a companion sitting mmuommn EFTA_0000I045 EFTA00135394 27 1 there. An inmate. 2 MR. : In the cell? 3 No. Outside the cell. 4 MR. : Okay. 5 L: It's a cell where you sit 6 and observe. 7 MR. : Okay. Is the com 8 another inmate or a staff? 9 EMPLOYEE No, it's a trained inmate 10 companion. Now, we have four cells. If those 11 cells get full, then we have to move them up to 12 the Special Housing Unit and then put a staff 13 watch on them. 14 MR. : Okay. What policies are 15 in place for suicide watch as it relates to 16 staff response, notification, how people get \\). 17 notified, if they're moving from suicide watch 18 to off suicide watch. How does that work? 19 IIIIIIIIIIII That works through 20 psychology. 21 MR. : Okay. 22 Psychology evaluates and 23 they'll say, okay, we've evaluated him and, you 24 know, wherever we're going, typically you 25 always usually go from the Special Housing Unit sorcumonn EFTA_00001046 EFTA00135395 28 1 to suicide. So, they'd say, okay you know 2 what, they're ready to go back up. 3 MR. : Okay. What role, how does 4 the program, is the psychologist the program 5 coordinator? 6 The chief psychologist 7 the department. 8 MR. : Okay. 9 lipal2011*0040-4 And then she has various 10 psychologists that work under her. 11 MR. : Okay. 12 IpmulmaroloWill And then evaluate because we 13 have a different mission as far as we have a 14 forensic mission. So, we get a lot of forensic 15 studies in the institution. 16 MR. : Okay. 17 EMPLOYEE And then we have a regular 18 psychologist also that handles the inmate 19 population but they work together and they 20 handle everything. 21 MR. : Okay. Who's ultimately 22 responsible for placing somebody on suicide 23 watch or off suicide watch? 24 ILIOSSMISSI Well placing it, a staff 25 member comes and says hey, this guy is SDNY_00007923 EFIA_00001047 EFTA00135396 29 1 suicidal. You can place him on suicide watch. 2 MR. : Okay. Anybody in the 3 institution can do that? 4 Yeah. If I come upon an 5 inmate that's saying, "Hey, I'm going to kill 6 myself." Okay, we get him on suicide watch. 7 Psychology comes and, you know, evaluates them 8 and then comes up with a plan. 9 MR. : Within the psychology 10 department -- 11 EMPLOYEE Um-hum. 12 MR. : -- or the medical 13 department there in mental health, who there 14 ultimately makes that decision? 15 EMPLOYEE I believe, and don't quote 16 me on this. T believe the psychologists. 17 MR. : Okay. 18 E:4P-rYEE 22 You know, they're trained 19 professionals. So, they can make a decision 20 and they consult with the Chief in, you know, 21 determining okay what's the plan of action to 22 move forward. 23 MR. : And are you, when 24 someone's placed in suicide watch, are you 25 notified of that? sormuommn EFTA_0000I048 EFTA00135397 30 1 Yeah. They send out a form 2 every day stating like who's on suicide watch, 3 who's on psyche observation. So -- 4 MR. : Okay. 5 ILIWSSUMWMI we're aware of who it is 6 and then they'll send out a form if there's no 7 one on there. 8 MR. : You said earlier that AI 9 while on suicide watch, there was an observer. 10 Right. 11 MR. How doe nmate become 12 an observer? 1‘;74\ 13 It's an inmate companion. 14 A companion, I'm sorry. 15 EMPLOYEE 2 So, it's a trained program. 16 So, they have to go through training. They lk 17 have to take courses, and then they become 18 eligible to become a companion. 19 MR. : Who authorizes the use of 20 an inmate companion? 21 The psychology department / 1 4 .)22 runs that. So 1(lpillim. 23 MR. : Do you have any input as 24 the Warden in selecting or training or 25 implementing the inmate companion program? simuomms EFTA_00001049 EFTA00135398 31 1 No. 2 MR. : Does every institution 3 have an inmate companion program? 4 Yes. 5 MS. : Who's the Chief 6 Psychologist? 7 (;;I:lir (phon 8 sp.). 9 MR. is the one 10 who is ultimately responsible for determining 11 if someone is on suicide watch and removing 12 them; correct? 13 rogiliftwaietey conjunction with our 14 staff. 15 :opaay. 16 irmgmwoomom Because you could be, a 17 psychologist is assigned to the individual when 18 they're working a plan with them. And if they 19 come to the determination that hey, you know 20 what, they no longer need to be on suicide 21 watch. 22 MR. : Okay. But as the clinical 23 director, she's ultimately responsible. 24 em il7 She's not the clinical. 25 She's the Chief Psychologist. SDNY_00007926 EFTA_00001050 EFTA00135399 32 1 MR. : Okay. 2 EMPLOYEE Clinical Director is a 3 separate position. 4 MR. : Okay. I apologize 5 that 6 That's fine. 7 : Thank you for cla 8 EMPLOYEE Okay. 9 MR. Who in the medic staff, 10 just for my clarification, who in the medical 11 staff is ultimately responsible for removing 12 somebody from suicide watch? 4 13 waingsal The psychology department 14 determines to remove somebody from 15 MR. : So, who in the psychology 16 department? 17 Again, it depends on who's 18 eitaluating the inmate. A 19 MR. : Okay. So -- 20 rammtunig And so we have one, two, 21 three, really we have, (Indiscernible Clim00122 *00:12:26) , uh, four. We have four 23 psychologists on staff. 24 MR. : You have four 25 psychologists on staff. And any one of those <Zig...1r mmumonn EFTA_00001051 EFTA00135400 33 1 four can remove somebody? 2 EMPLOYEE 22 Can remove somebody. 3 MR. : Do those four have, who's 4 those four supervisors? 5 liainZgara 6 MP. : E. 7 Irmalansmat Yeah. 8 MR. What authority does she 9 have to overrule them? 10 EMPLOYE: And I'm of ologist - 11 - 1444%, 12 : Sure: 13 -- to know what procedures 14 they use -- 15 : Um-hum. 16 -- or what conversation they 17 have to determine if she's going to overrule 18 them. I mean, she's the supervisor, and it's 19 just like with any, you know, profession you 20 have. 21 MR. : Right. O w 22 If I come up with some 23 reasoning 40Q! 24 MR. : Um-hum. 25 L ll i__,._ In saying hey, I don't agree SDNY_00007928 EFTA_00001052 EFTA00135401 34 1 with your decision, then we debate it and then 2 we ultimately come to a decision. 3 MR. : Okay. 4 As to yay or nay. 5 : Okay. 6 So, it's kind of the same 7 thing. 8 MR. : While on suicide watch, 9 you said there's a 24-hour companion. What 10 does staff do for the inmates while they're on 11 suicide watch? 12 mamma Well we have a camera, well 13 they're trained to, there's a phone there. So, 14 let's say something happened where an inmate's 15 trying to do harm to himself. They pick up the 16 phone and they call for assistance, because it 17 goes directly to control center, and we respond 18 accordingly to it. 19 But we also in our control center, while 20 the individual is on suicide watch, there's a 21 camera there. 22 MR. : Okay. 23 To view -- 24 MR. What specific training 25 does M st saff get as it relates to the suicide SDNY_00007929 EFTA_00001053 EFTA00135402 35 1 watch? 2 EMPLOYEE Once a year during our 3 annual training, we have suicide prevention 4 training. 5 MR. : Okay. 6 ILWIMINUII During our annual train 7 MR. : And that's requir 8 all -- 9 ippapvcov*wmom All employees. 10 MR. : What does that training 11 cover? 1 12 Suicide signs, prevention, 13 coping, just anything pertaining to suicide, 14 sir. Signs to look for. 15 MR. : Um-hum. 16 rzomicovaterry Urn -- 17 MR. : Is there any specific 18 staff that are more trained, or specifically 19 trained for this area of the prison? 20 EMPLOYEE Our Special Housing Unit 21 staff get quarterly suicide prevention 22 training. 23 MR. : Okay. Is that part of 24 something the MCC does independent, or is that 25 policy dictated? How does that -- SDNY_00007930 EFTA_00001054 EFTA00135403 36 1 EMPLOYEE 2z That's our policy dictates 2 that they get quarterly training. 3 MR. : Okay. That's SOP policy; 4 correct? 5 I _ Yes. 6 MR. : Okay. When someone, you 7 said that any staff member at the BOP can place 8 somebody on suicide watch? A s 9 irmaosmoNgli Yes. 10 MR. : Is there any paperwork or 11 documentation for that that they have to fill 12 out? *1% 4 13 EMPLOYEE No. Basically they'll tell 14 that, you know, that hey we need to place him 15 on watch, and we'll place him on watch, and 16 then we'll contact psychology. 17 MR. : Okay. 1 ,1 18 To come in and talk to them. 19 MR. : Okay. There's no referral 20 that says, "I placed inmate" -- 21 Imagaggili No. Psychology will handle 22 it 23 : Okay. 24 Irmaoroomali -- here and there, in their 25 notes and their documentation that they were SDNY_00007931 EFTA_00001055 EFTA00135404 37 1 placed on it, when they were placed on it. 2 MR. : So, the psychology 3 department is responsible for documenting when 4 people come in in treatment. 5 igszugigli We, you know, we have what_‘ 6 we call a daily log in the 7 MR. : Um-hum. 8 EMPLOYEE -- institution. So, the log 4/ 9 would annotate somebody was placed on suicide 10 watch also. 11 MR. : Okay. Is there any 12 specific forms or reports that get filled out 13 when somebody is removed from suicide watch? 14 EMPLOYEE I believe psychology would 15 do those forms ar.d saying in their reports why 16 they were removed and if they're ready to be 17 released. 18 MR. : Do you get those forms? 19 I don't get the special 20 medical ones. I just, with the notification 21 that, you know, with the one that email that 22 goes out -- 23 MR. : Um-hum. 24 Nimpasmomoll -- that the individual was 25 released from suicide watch. SDNY_00007932 EFTA_00001056 EFTA00135405 38 1 MR. : Do you get notified, you 2 just said you get notified in the email that 3 somebody's removed or -- 4 EMPLOYEE 2 It's an email that the 5 psychology department puts out stating who's 6 suicide watch, who's been removed. 7 MR. : Is that a daily list? 8 Like they send it once a day, or when someone 9 new comes on and off? How does that 10 EMPLOYEE 4- It's a daily one. And 11 : Okay. 12 EMPLOYEE And it states who's on 13 watch, who's, you know, who's got released, and 14 -- 15 MR. : Who does that get 16 disseminated to? 17 It's a group. It's a group IIIIIIIIIIII 18 email that gets sent to all department heads, 19 Captain, Lieutenants, everybody in the need to 20 know. 21 MR. : This is the supervisors 22 within the institution? The Lieutenants, the 23 Captain. 24 sum (Indiscernible *00:17:07). 25 : Okay. SDNY_00007933 EFTA_00001057 EFTA00135406 39 1 EMPLOYEE 2z And, don't quote me on that, 2 but I need to look at the chain -- 3 MR. : Okay. 4 -- to see who's actually on 5 it. MR. -- < 6 MR. : But it's not an Crilli 7 institution-wide email? 8 EMPLOYEE It is kind of sent out C 9 institution wide because you have the different 10 departments on it. So, you can say it's 11 institution wide. 12 MR. : Not every person in the 13 institution gets that email, though? 14 No. I don't -- laill 15 MR. : Okay. Just not an MCC all 16 type of -- 17 No, it's not an all staff. IiIIIIIIIIII 18 : Okay. Yeah. 4K\ : What is the expectation of O 1(lpillim. 1 the department heads and the supervisors and 22 the Lieutenants and Captains once they get this 2 23 email? What are they supposed to do with that? 24 I mean, it's just a 25 notification that the individual's being SDNY_00007934 EFTA_00001058 EFTA00135407 40 1 removed from suicide watch. So, it depends on 2 where they're going. So, if they're going back 3 to Special Housing Unit, so it's notification 4 that hey, this person's been taken off. We 5 have nobody on watch right now. 6 MR. : Okay. Are they supposed 7 to disseminate that? What are they supposed to 8 do with that information? Are they supposed to 9 tell anybody where they -- 10 Well, I mean when that 11 individual is released 12 MR. Um:ii474 .4 13 EMPLOYEE Wherever they're going for, 14 they're going to be notified by psychology that 15 they're coming directly -- 16 MR. : Okay. 17 EMPLOYEE t, -- to you. 18 : Okay. 19 taussummi So, it was just an 20 accountability -- 21 MR. : Okay. 22 -- thing just to know that 23 hey, this person is getting off of watch. 24 MR. : So, psychology will notify 25 whatever unit they're going back to? SDNY_00007935 EFTA_00001059 EFTA00135408 41 1 Well, it depends where 2 you're going back to. Typically I always go to 3 Special Housing Unit down. 4 MR. : Okay. 5 igszugigli And typically when you do, 6 let's say an individual has tried to commit 7 suicide. It's an infraction. So, they usually 8 have an incident report that goes beyond that. 9 So, you have to come up to the Special Housing ( 10 Unit anyway before so that that infraction can 11 be resolved. 12 MR. : Okay.4 13 magniggagl So, there are a number of 14 aspects of, you know, how. Did you go straight 15 back or if you don't go back there. 16 MR. : And this email that 17 psychology sends out with the list of who's in 18 and who's out of suicide watch -- 9 Who's on watch, yeah? MR. : -- is that once a day or twice a day? Is that morning and evening thing? O 212 23 It depends. 24 MR. : Okay. 25 When you come in in the 4q < mmynoomm EFTA_00001060 EFTA00135409 42 1 morning, they could say, you know, this is 2 who's on watch, and then you get another one 3 stating who's been released off of watch. 4 MR. : Okay. Is there any policy 5 or standard operation procedure on how 6 (Indiscernible *00:19:21) that email gets 7 out? 8 EMPLOYEE How what? 9 : How frequent that email lo No. 11 MR. : Oka 6, 1 should be at 4 444 12 least once a day? 13 EMPLOYEE That's when they send it 14 out. I don'. -- 15 MR. Okay. When somebody is 16 removed from Special Housing -- 17 Um-hum. 18 MR. -- and placed in suicide 19 watch: on the second floor 20 EM?LOYEE « Um-hum. 1 MR. is anything done to 22 their cell in Special Housing? Is there any lq... 23 precautions or anything that go into that? 24 ENFL- So, typically let's say you 25 do leave, and it depends on how much space we SDNY_00007937 EPTA_0000I061 EFTA00135410 43 1 have. We really don't have that much space. 2 MR. : Okay. 3 So, usually that cell, 4 depending on if when they were removed from the 5 cell, if they had a cellmate. So, what happen 6 is that individual's property is removed, and 7 we could possibly put somebody else in that 8 cell. 9 MR. : Okay. 10 Um -- 11 MR. : And again, the suicide 12 watch versus psychological, the psyche eval 13 that, you said that happened right away when 14 someone first comes in the prison; correct? 15 gpmsowoomail Well I -- 16 : A psyche eval? 17 EMP •YEE -- I didn't say what you 18 said before that. You said -- 19 MR. : A psychological eval. 20 EMPLOYEE L. Okay. 21 MR. : I want to clarify, earlier 22 you said that people, inmates get that when 23 they first come into the prison; correct? 24 gummululi Yeah. Psychologically when 25 they initially have to come and actually SDNY_00007938 EFTA_0000(062 EFTA00135411 44 1 perform -- 2 MR. : Okay. 3 -- an initial intake 4 screening. 5 MR. : Is there a level below 6 suicide watch? 7 Well we also have wilp •:" _,Ar /> 8 call a psyche observation. *\ 9 MR. : Okay. 10 And I think the best way to 11 describe that would be it's a step-down from 12 suicide watch. For example, we might have a 13 mental health inmate that is just mentally, you 14 know, out there. So, we'll put them on psyche 15 observation. They haven't said they're going 16 to hurt themselves, but they have the potential 17 to do it. 18 Somebody might be on narcotics and acting 19 erratic and you don't know what they're on. 20 So, they might end up doing it. But it's a 21 different type of observation because it's not 22 as stringent as suicide watch. 23 MR. : Okay. 24 MS. : Can you explain what that 25 means? What are the requirements when an SDNY_00007939 EFTA_00001063 EFTA00135412 45 1 inmate is on psyche eval, or psyche 2 observation? 3 If they're on psyche 4 observation, we are not necessarily putting 5 them in a smock. You know? You can still hav 6 your regular clothing. We're just observi 7 your behavior and that. So, that's the 8 difference. 9 MS. : And does the psychologist 10 stop by every day? 11 EMP_JOYEE 22 They're treated the same way 12 as somebody that's on suicide watch. They're 13 evaluated, come up with a plan. They're ready 14 to be released. Keep them on, more along those 15 lines. 16 MS. : Well is someone on psyche 17 evaluation, do they have an inmate companion 18 watching them? 19 imigusimig Psyche obs also has an 20 inmate companion. So, anybody in that area has 21 an inmate watching them. 22 MR. : As the Warden, do you have 23 any input on the determinate if someone's in 24 psychological observation, in suicide watch or 25 observation status? Do you have any input on miquommo EFTA_0000I064 EFTA00135413 46 1 that? 2 I don't overrule medical 3 decisions. I'm not a 4 MR. : Um-hum. 5 IpMMOWPMffiell If they come to me and say 6 this is warranted whether it's medical car 7 not, I don't -- 8 MR. : Okay. 9 MS. : But you're briefed on it? 10 EMPLOYEE 2_ I'm briefed on it. Yes. 11 Is that orally? 12 EMPLOYEE Orally they'll come and say, 13 well we'll discuss an inmate saying, hey, he 14 has mental issues. I feel that they need to be 15 placed here or there. And I'm going with your 16 evaluation. I'm not going to, and I have good 17 psychologists. So, I trust their judgment. 18 MS. : Can an inmate be taken off 19 of suicide watch by II. or her staff 20 without consulting you? 21 mangsgigi They can. The / 1 4 . 0010122 decides who's coming off of watch. So, they lq... 23 can make the determination and, you know, they 24 send up to the Associate Warden, the Captain, 25 and it will come to release and if they're SDNY_00007941 EFTA_0000I 065 EFTA00135414 47 1 going off it. So, it doesn't -- 2 MS. : But do they -- 3 -- have to necessarily, it's 4 not my approval. 5 MS. : Do they typically consul 6 you when that happens? 7 Depending on, you know, if 8 it's the case, you know? Who it is, you might 9 be, like I said, a high profile individual they 10 would say, "Hey, we're taking him off of watch. 11 We're doing this." So, we'll be following the 12 plan closely, so 13 MR. n it comes to Epstein, 14 Jeffrey Epstein -- 15 ;0m-hum. 16 MR. : -- he was in the mental 17 health program. Can you just tell us your 18 understanding of his involvement with the 19 psychologist at MCC? 20 Um, let me back-track. 21 MR. : Sure. ,44.0 ,22 E`-1F It's not a mental health 1(:?!.... 23 program. 24 MR. : Okay. 25 Um -- SDNY_00007942 EFTA_0000I066 EFTA00135415 48 1 Sorry. 2 EMPLOYEE Being, I guess, reviewed by 3 psychology -- 4 MR. : Sure. 5 -- they're following 6 He was on their case. 7 MR. : Okay. 8 EMPLOYEE And you want to know what I 9 knew about it? 41 ilk 10 MR. : Yes. t rill **1 11 EMPLOYEE Again, he was under their 12 care. They were evaluating him, and, you know, 13 going through their protocol to determine why 14 he was on watch. If he was on suicide watch, 15 can he come off of suicide watch? Was he 16 suicidal? Things like that. 17 MR. : At any time, were you 18 aware or notified of him being suicidal or 19 having any suicidal ideations or attempts? 20 EMtaciiEE <z Well we had an incident 21 where he was in the cell with Tartaglione -- 22 MR. : Okay. 23 EMPLOYEE 22 -- that it might've been a 24 suicide attempt and it might not have been a 25 suicide attempt. So, we followed the protocols SDNY_00007943 EFTA_0000I067 EFTA00135416 49 1 and put him on watch. There was also an 2 internal investigation where he was interviewed 3 and his cellmate was interviewed, and he 4 basically denied (Indiscernible *00:25:35). 5 MR. : When you say "he denied" 6 Tartaglione -- 7 irm2swoomome He said 8 : -- or Epstein? r NN,Or 9 Irnaosmemom No, Epstein stated that, 10 "Hey, didn't try to kill myself." And then 11 Tartaglione said that he was sitting in the 12 cell. He thought he was having a heart attack. 13 So, I forget the words psychology used to 14 determine what their conclusion was as far as 15 the actual act. 16 MR. : Okay. 17 MS. : Did you review the 18 incident report for the suicide attempt? 19 I reviewed the investigative 20 report that the Lieutenant interviewed both of 21 them, took their statements, and all that 22 because the review process goes from, the 23 Lieutenant initiates it. It goes to the 24 Captain, Associate Warden, and myself. And 25 then I, uh, sign off on it. SIDNY00007944 EFTA 0000(068 EFTA00135417 50 1 MS. : Did you speak with II. 2 after she had consulted with Mr. Epstein 3 when he was placed on suicide watch? 4 Um, yes. We have SHU 5 meetings, and we have it once a week, and 6 Epstein was brought up, and she talked about 7 Mr. Epstein. 8 MS. : After the suicide attempt? 9 irmaosmemill Yes. 10 MS. : What day of the week is 11 the SHU thing typically? 12 EMPLOYEE It's Thursdays. 13 : All right and -- 14 rimumoRMOil Right. 15 MS. : -- what happens at the SHU 16 meetings? 17 It's a list where we go 18 around and we talk about every inmate. We have 19 inmates that are in there for infractions, 20 criminal issues, from your office, a high- 21 profile guy might come in. So, we just talk 22 about, okay, what's the status. If we call in 23 a disciplinary citation, that means they've 24 been sanctioned and they're doing time, and 25 then we look at the release date. We have some SDNY_00007945 EFTA_0000I069 EFTA00135418 51 1 in there pending investigations. Cellphone 2 introduction. Drug introduction. So, that 3 goes through the investigative process, and 4 then we have, you know, we also have our SAMs 5 (phonetic sp.) inmates that are housed in 6 there. 7 So, we basically discuss and talk about 8 every inmate. 9 MS. : And who attends these 10 meetings? 4. -1143 / 11 EMPLOYEE 2.z Myself, all the Associate 12 Wardens, the Unit Managers, psychology, the 13 Captain, the SHU Lieutenant, the Investigative 14 Lieutenant. So, we just have everyone there 15 that's involved in the -- 16 MS. : And what's your 17 understanding of whether the SHU Lieutenant or 18 the Captain brief out the duty Officers in the 19 SHU about the outcome of that SHU meeting every 20 week. 21 EMPLOYEE I don't understand what you 22 mean. 23 MS. : So, do you have an 24 understanding of whether, because the duty 25 Officers are not present in the SHU meeting; SDNY_00007946 EFTA_00001070 EFTA00135419 52 1 correct? 2 EMPLOYEE No. 3 MS. : Do you have an 4 understanding of how, for instance, if you tell 5 the Lieutenant, I want this done in the SHU, 6 will the Lieutenant then tell his duty Officers 7 after the meeting? 8 EMPLOYEE Well, the duty officer is 9 supposed to make rounds throughout the 10 institution when they're on duty to observe and 11 report if anything is not right. And then if 12 we have incidents, they make notifications, you 13 know, to the regi 14 MS. the region? 15 like let's say we have a 16 fight. 17 MS. : Um-hum. 18 Or maybe like you said, a 19 suicide attempt. So, they have to contact the 20 Regional Duty Officer. That's their 21 notification. They make the Regional Duty 22 Officer, and then it moves up the chain that 23 way, and then I have to make my notifications, 24 which I make my notifications to the Regional 25 Director. SDNY_00007947 EFTA_00001071 EFTA00135420 53 1 MS. : Okay. And my question is, 2 does any information, do you have an 3 understanding of whether any information that's 4 conveyed in these SHU meetings gets briefed 5 down to the line Officers who are responsible 6 for patrolling the SHU? 7 Right. 8 : It does? 9 spalsosmeoli Yeah. The SHU Lieutenant is 10 there, and he's in the meeting, he or she is in 11 the meeting, and they're talking to their staff 12 on what needs to be done or the status, you 13 know. We're going in and we determine if 14 somebody can be released, then that will be 15 conveyed back that hey, an individual can be 16 released!‘ILN\ 1140r 17 MS. : So, you were saying that 18 after the July 23rd suicide attempt, there was a 19 Thursday SHU meeting? 20 Right. 21 MS. : In which II. 22 discussed at least her initial observations of 23 Mr. Epstein? 24 mususimil Well, she would initially 25 discuss it there, but she would also initially, SDNY_00007948 EFTA_00001072 EFTA00135421 54 1 whoever, you know, if the Warden is there, 2 initiate it to the AW. So, that would be 3 something immediate that she would say, hey, 4 he's on watch and this happened. 5 MS. : And what happened at that 6 first SHU meeting after the suicide attempt? 7 The week of July 22nd to the 8 26th, I was on leave. // 9 MS. : Okay. 10 So, I was, you know, I was 11 getting called. So, I don't know the 12 specifics, but I was aware of, you know, I got 13 called that hey, there was an attempt and the 14 protocols were followed. A 15 MS. : Okay. 16 irmsorataral Notifications were made. Nk 17 1.I . : Okay. So, the following 18 I think is the week of the 29th. The 29th or the 30th, yeah. MS. : You were back in the 1 office? O 22 That Monday. So, if you cLar 23 have a calendar, I can look at it. 24 25 MS. : I think it's the 29th -- So, yeah. So, the 29th is a SDNY_00007949 EFfA_000O1073 EFTA00135422 55 1 Monday. I have to check, did I take a extra 2 day or not? I'm not sure, but the 29th, I 3 should've, I would've been back. 4 MS. : So, that Thursday meeting 5 which looks like would've been August lst, you 6 were present at? 7 Yes. 8 MS. And what was discussed 9 during the SHU meeting? 10 111:11. The SHU meeting, we'll 11 discuss every inmate. Every inmate on the 12 list, what's their status? Updates and all 13 that stuff. 14 MS. : Okay. And specifically 15 with respect to Epstein, what was discussed? 16 I don't recall specifically. 17 I know we would've talked about him. We 18 would've probably talked about, you know, his 19 psychological status and I got to remember on 20 the first, he was probably back in the Special 21 Housing Unit. So, we were probably, you know, 22 talking about his housing conditions, what's he 23 doing, and usually the conversation was during 24 the day he was down at the attorney visits, you 25 know? SDNY_00007950 EFTA_00001074 EFTA00135423 56 1 And then there were certain exams that we 2 had to do that we wanted to get done on him. 3 And then we discussed that. 4 MS. : Uh, what kind of exams? 5 EMPLOYEE Physicals and then, you 6 know, and I don't know if that was before 7 after his sleep apnea machine that he was, o 8 know, requesting. 9 MS. : Um-hum. 10 Because typically, you know, 11 you have to go through the fitting and the 12 process, but, you know, we allowed that one to 13 come in. We checked it, security wise, and 14 said it was fine to come in, and we got it. 15 So, I think we might have been discussing that, 16 more along those lines. 17 But we discuss every inmate in there. I 18 don't specifically remember it. I know we 19 would've talked about what the issues were 20 pertaining to him. 21 MS. : Um, let's go back to 22 Um-hum. 23 : -- the suicide attempt. 24 rogisoraosom Okay. 25 : You said that you were on SDNY_00007951 EFTA_00001075 EFTA00135424 57 1 leave that week, but you were notified by your 2 Associate Warden? 3 Associate Warden, yes. 4 MS. : Okay. Were you receiving 5 daily updates? 6 Not, I mean, they called me 7 during the day the first time that it happened. 8 Hey, this is what happened. He's on watch. // 9 And then the next day, you know, he was still 10 on watch. So, there was really no, I didn't 11 need that much updates because we knew he was 12 on watch. 13 MS. kay. 14 EMPLOYEE 2 Um -- 15 MS. : And you notified your 16 Regional Director? 17 I notified my Regional 18 Director. And then while I was on leave, my 19 Regional Director was also in contact with my 20 acting AW. 21 MS. : Did the -- 22 Acting Warden, I'm sorry. 23 MS. : Did the Regional Director 24 convey any directions to your AW during that 25 time? SDNY_00007952 EFTA_00001076 EFTA00135425 58 1 I believe just the basics, 2 you know. Keep him updated what's going on 3 because at the time he was under psychology's 4 care. 5 : Um-hum. 6 EMPLOYEE So, once they're in that, 7 there's really not that much input to go on 8 because they're on watch. 9 MS. : And then Epstein was 10 downgraded from suicide watch to psyche 11 observation. 12 irgizaimmisoll Psyche observation. 13 MS. : While he was still on the 14 second floor? 15 ramcovmmp*II Yes. 16 N,. : Were you notified of that rir 17 change? 18 Yes, that he was on psyche 19 obs. \y/ 20 MS. : Okay. And did you discuss 21 that with II. at all? 22 Yeah. We talked about it. 23 Again, it was, you know, him going back up to 24 the Special Housing Unit. Although he wasn't 25 suicidal, it was just a matter of, okay, who SDNY_00007953 EFTA_00001077 EFTA00135426 59 1 are we going to house him with? 2 MS. : Um-hum. 3 You know, coming to that 4 decision and then that would give her more time 5 to work with him if she needed. 6 MS. : Okay. Did you have a 7 discussion with II. about whether she ik 8 felt he was still suicidal? 9 irmaosmemill Again, if the psychologist 10 tells me that he's ready and he goes, I don't 11 question medical judgment. I trust her 12 judgement. If she says he's not suicidal and 13 he's ready to go back, then we trust her 14 judgment. 15 MS. : And she did -- 16 Irm2Kwoomoil Because she -- 17 : -- tell you that? 18 gyammill She said he was ready to go 19 back. He wasn't suicidal and that he was ready 20 to go back. 21 MS. : Did you review any of her v22 reports or the psychologist's reports -- 1(lpillim. 23 EMPLOYEE I don't -- 24 MS. : -- during the time he was 25 on the second floor? c SDNY_00007954 EFTA_00001078 EFTA00135427 60 1 EMPLOYEE 2z No. I don't review any 2 medical files. 3 MS. : And he came back to the 4 SHU on the 30th, is that right? 5 igugugggsg Uh, yes. 6 : Okay. 7 poNtaitonsterm Um-hum. 8 MS. : And what discussions did 9 you have, let's start with II , about 10 the conditions of his confinement in the SHU? 11 EMPLOYEE She just said to get him in, 12 you know, we're going to put him, get him a 13 cellmate because typically every inmate that, 14 you know, is on suicide or whatever, we say, 15 okay, we're going to give him a cellmate. So, 16 that was when we went through the process of 17 figuring out, okay, who could we possibly put 18 him in with? Um, the pickings were slim. 19 So, I came up with Tartaglione, and no 20 wait, no. Tartaglione, he had been put down 21 there originally because of Tartaglione. 22 MS. : Um-hum. 23 EMEJ.OYEE ee So, what happened was, we 24 had to come up with some more inmates. So, I 25 came up with three. It was, I believe, Reyes, SDNY_00007955 EFTA_00001079 EFTA00135428 61 1 , and who was the other one? We had 2 another sex offender in there that we were 3 going to put him in there, and he said, "If he 4 comes in here, it's going to be a problem." 5 So, we didn't put him in there. 6 So, we ended up putting Reyes in there. --1\ r 7 MS. : Um-hum. 8 EMPLOYEE Reyes, an older gentleman. 9 10 , so we figured that was a good 11 fit, and then I sent an email of the three to 12 the Director's Chief of Staff I sent an email 13 to. 14 MS. what is his name? 15 roinaosofew. (phonetic 16 sp.). Nk 17 MS. : Okay. And so you emailed ■ 18 him, here are the three 19 ria•rnowal Here are the three -- 20 possible -- NLISIMAMIll -- possible ones. 22 : Okay. 23 'v49[61=0001 Right. 24 : Did you tell 25 SDNY_00007956 EFTA_00001080 EFTA00135429 62 1 MS. : Did you tell Mr. 2 that he needed to have a cellmate? 3 EMPLOYEE Yes. That's what the 4 discussion was, for a cellmate. So, I sent 5 that up, spoke with my Regional Director. I 6 believe he received it too, and came to the 7 conclusion Reyes would probably be the best fit 8 for him. So, we put him in the cell with 9 Reyes. 10 MS. : Is there a policy about 11 whether an inmate needs to have a cellmate 12 after they've been taken off of suicide watch? 13 EMPLOYEE There's no policy, but it's 14 sound correctional judgment. I mean even if an 15 individual is not on suicide watch, and you're 16 in the Special Housing Unit, you typically want 17 somebody in there with them. 18 MS. : Um-hum. Because, I mean, you never knor what could happen. So, just for somebody 1 to talk to, you know, pass the time. So, you 22 typically put somebody in there unless again 23 we're in a situation where they're just totally 24 separated from somebody -- 25 MS. : Um-hum. SDNY_00007957 EFTA_00001081 EFTA00135430 63 1 -- and we can't put them in 2 there because it becomes a life safety issue. 3 MS. : How long after someone is 4 taken off suicide watch would you typically 5 direct that they have a cellmate? 6 It would depend on the 7 situation, because you could be gettin 8 released to a unit where you would At 9 automatically have a cellmate going through, or 10 you know, direction could put out that, hey, 11 make sure the individual has a cellmate. 12 So, there's no really timeframe on when 13 you would decide that. 14 MR. : Just to clarify, as it 15 relates to, I know you guys just discussed 16 this, but just making sure I'm following you 17 guys correctly. As it relates to the first 18 suicide _-tempi- back on July 23rd, Mr. Epstein. 19 iviwleroomoil Right. 20 : You were on leave. 21 ILTUAWAMMIN Yeah, the 22nd. / 1 4 .01922 NR. : You were notified via 23 telephone of this, and you notified the 24 Regional Director. Is that correct? 25 Yeah, of the, yeah, I did SDNY_00007958 EFTA_00001082 EFTA00135431 64 1 call him to tell him. 2 MR. : You called the Regional 3 Director? 4 Yes. 5 MR. : -- while on leave to 6 notify him? Did you notify anybody else o 7 23rd incident? / A 8 EMPLOYEE No, I called my boss, and 9 M:-.. : Okay. 10 OLVMULIIIII Yeah. 11 MR. : And that is, via the 12 policy and your responsibilities, as a BOP 13 policy and your responsibility as a Warden, is 14 there anybody else that you were supposed to \v/ 15 notify? 16 roggioyasery 17 : Okay. 18 No. 19 MR. : And your staff was 20 notified because they were working in the 21 institution; correct? 22 Which staff? 23 MR. : Your Assistant Warden, who 24 25 Yeah. She was the Acting SDNY_00007959 EFTA_00001083 EFTA00135432 65 1 Warden, so she -- 2 MR. : Acting Warden. 3 ILIMMINII Yeah. 4 : Who was that? 5 EMPLOYEE At the time, I believe it __ 6 wa: (phonetic sp.). 1 ---tr 7 Yeah, she was Active Warden. 8 MR. : Okay. Do you happen to 9 know if she notified anybody? 10 111:11: She would? ve d the 11 Region also. 144% 12 MR. Okay. ` 13 EMPLOYEE And she would've notified 14 the region, but she was just calling me 15 MR. : Okay. 16 spoisemmesil -- just to let me know like, An 17 hey, this is 7,hat's going on. 18 MR. : Okay. And back when, a 19 few days later when Epstein was removed from 20 suicide watch to psyche observation -- 21 OLUSSILWIll Um-hum. 22 MR. : -- were you notified of 23 that change? 24 rtsfro'imarm That he was being moved? 25 : Just downgraded from SDNY_00007960 EPTA_00001084 EFTA00135433 66 1 suicide watch to psychological observation. 2 Et.:?JOYEE z2 Yes. 3 MR. : Did you notify anybody of 4 that? 5 Um, I might've called my 6 boss to let him know that, hey, he's been 7 downgraded off of suicide watch. 8 MR. : Okay. 9 gpmapcovmpooll Yeah. 10 MR. : You don't 11 specifically calling? 12 13 14 probably would've 15 notified him. 16 MR. : Okay. Did you recall Nk 17 notifying anybody specifically about that 18 downgrade? 19 Illimmil What, as far as him? 20 MR. : Yep. 21 EY1P-OYEE No, I don't recall, but it 4 ..0 22 would've probably been my boss telling me -- / 1 1(Iplum. 23 MR. : Okay. 24 musummuli -- hey, we moved him from 25 suicide watch down to -- mrmuommi EFTA_00001085 EFTA00135434 67 1 MS. : And that's the Regional 2 Director? 3 EMPLOYEE That's the Regional 4 Director. 5 MS. : And what's his name? 6 __ _•M 7 MR. : And then a few days later 8 when he was removed from observation and placed 9 back in Special Housing Unit, you were notified 10 of that? Were you notified of that? 11 EMPLOYEE Oh, yes. 12 MR. : Did you notify anybody of 13 that? 14 IMININUOALMI nhen he was removed and 15 placed back in the 16 MR. : Yes. 17 EM? DYER tr. -- Special Housing? Yeah, I 18 let my supervisor know that that was the plan. 19 : Okay. 20 •'4;I14LIIIII He was moving him, because 21 remember we had to get him -- 22 MR. : Um-hum. 23 -- a roommate. 24 MR. : Right. 25 imigsgligi So, that was the whole SDNY_00007962 EFTA_00001086 EFTA00135435 68 1 process, notifying, hey, he's coming off watch. 2 He's going to the Special Housing Unit. 3 MR. : Um-hum. 4 EMPLOYEE 2 And he's going to get a 5 roommate. 6 MR. : Other than your Regio 7 Director, did you notify anybody else? 8 EMPLOYEE That he was coming off,: 9 : Yes. 10 imusammi -- or talk about it? 11 : Yep. 12 Ipingslwomoli Yeah. My exec staff. 13 Okay. 14 EMPLOYEE z And said that, you know, 15 what the expectation was that, you know, he's 16 going to have a cellmate. 17 MR. : So, you told, during that 18 meeting, do you recall when that meeting was? 19 E:,ft "YE- L I don't recall when the 20 meeting was, but I just told them, hey, he 21 needs to have a cellmate. This is his 22 cellmate. cellmate at all times. And, you ILO / 1(lpillim. 23 know, put it out to your 24 MR. : Okay. Um -- 25 MS. : Put it out to your people? SDNY_00007963 EFTA_00001087 EFTA00135436 69 1 To the departments and your 2 areas of responsibility on that's how he was 3 going to be housed. 4 MS. : And who did you 5 specifically tell that to? 6 My Associate Wardens were in 7 there, whoever was acting, the Captain because 8 that specifically falls under his area. 9 MS. : Um-hum. 14141 10 The Special Housing Unit. I 11 told him specifically he needs to be housed 12 alone. I informed his Lieutenant, you know, 13 and his offices and basically on each shift, 14 just be mindful, you know, of making rounds and 15 just not for him, just for everybody. 16 MS. : And what's the Captain's 17 name? 18 gpinamoon. 19 . Okay. 20 EMPLOYEE L. Um-hum. : Did you tell Captain 22 this before Epstein was moved back to 23 the SHU? 24 musuming Yeah. We had a meeting, and 25 I got together and I said, hey, this was going SONY 00007964 EFTA_00001088 EFTA00135437 70 1 to be the plan that Reyes was going to be moved 2 in with him. He was going to have a cellmate, 3 and that was the protocol we were going to 4 follow. 5 MS. : Did confirm that ha° 6 would tell his Lieutenants, or his -- 7 He confirmed. I followed up 8 and asked him, did you put it out to the 4/ 9 Lieutenants and staff working, and he told me 10 yes. 11 MS. : And was that before 12 Epstein, his confirmation, did that come before 13 Epstein was moved back to the SHU, or around 14 the first day he was in the SHU? 15 poNgaetatiese No before. I had the 16 conversation with him, and then I followed up 17 afterwards anl'said, "Hey, did you disseminate 18 the information?" And he said, "Everything was 19 disseminated." 20 But it wasn't just a one-day thing. It 21 was a constant, I told him, a constant follow 22 up, you know? Make sure that, you know, these 23 protocols are being followed. 24 MS. : How many times do you 25 recall telling Captain that, between SDNY_00007965 EFTA_00001089 EFTA00135438 71 1 when Epstein went back to the SHU -- 2 Et•S?:.OYEE z2 Um-hum. 3 : -- and then his suicide? 4 EMPLOYEE 2 I don't recall the number of 5 times, but it was just a conversation 6 constantly reminding that let's be vigilan 7 just not him, but everybody in the Spe 8 Housing Unit. 9 MS. Could you estima daily? 10 Once? Twice? 11 LA__ I_ I wouldn't say daily. I 12 would say, I don't have an actual number. I 13 don't want to say an actual number, but you 14 know, if I did encounter, or I made rounds in 15 the unit, I would, you know, tell staff up 16 there, you know, be vigilant with your 17 protocol. 18 So, I don't know the specific amount of 19 time. I make my rounds once a week at a 20 minimum, but, you know, sometimes it's more. 21 Sometimes it's less. 22 MR. : When it comes to the 23 ability, so you specifically go back to, what 24 you said earlier about Reyes. 25 Right. SDNY00007966 EFTA_00001090 EFTA00135439 72 1 MR. : You came up with three 2 possible 3 Right. 4 MR. -- roommates for him, and 5 with that list, did you brief that up the chain 6 for approval, or where did that go that list? 7 I sent it to, I made my boss 8 aware of it. 9 MR. : Okay. 10 And then I sent it to the 11 Chief of Staff in the Director's office. So, I 12 don't know what conversations 13 MR. Sure. 14 EMPLOYEE 2 -- took place above that. 15 Um -- 16 MR. Okay. 17 EMPLOYEE . . I just know about -- 18 MR. : You briefed it up the 19 chain. You briefed your suggestions up the 20 chain. 21 gmaggssms I went up the chain. 22 MR. : And there was, were there 23 any objections to that list? <Z# 24 25 - mingsgm I gave the three possibles - SDNY_00007967 EFTA_0000(091 EFTA00135440 73 1 : Um-hum. 2 EMPLOYEE 2 -- but you know, one I had 3 was a 26-year-old drug dealer I know he, and he 4 was still in there, and I was like although he 5 was separated, I just didn't 6 MR. : Um-hum. 7 7 feel that he could, you I. 8 know, he might, somebody could convince him to 9 do something. So, he didn't, I didn't feel 10 comfortable with him, and I forget the other 11 one. And I think the other one might've been 12 somebody that was going to be releasing soon. 13 MR. : Okay. 14 EMPLOYEE So, I took in the factors 15 Reyes' age- -- 16 MR. : Um-hum. 17 EMPLOYEE -- and second when he 18 checked himself in and feeling that he was 19 going to be long-term. 20 MR. : Okay. That, so you made 21 special care and consideration in picking 22 Epstein's roommate, cellmate? 23 Based on the 24 MR. : Yep. 25 -- options I had SONY 00007968 EFTA 00001092 EFTA00135441 74 1 : Yep. 2 EMPLOYEE -- which wasn't too many. I 3 mean, he had to have a cellmate, and the 4 options weren't good. 5 MR. : Are staff in the Special 6 Housing Unit allowed to assign cellmates 7 arbitrarily or on their own without consulting 8 a Captain, Lieutenant, or yourself 9 (Indiscernible *00:46:26). 10 Yeah, the offices on their 11 own can, you know, if they have to move 12 somebody around can move somebody around based 13 on they know who can be housed with who. If 14 somebody's separation, they know who's 15 separated from an individual. So, they can do APIL lyr 16 that. 17 NW. : Okay. 18 EMP LC YEE 22 I mean, they're capable of 19 doing that. 20 MR. : Okay. As it relates, talk 21 about Reyes a little bit. 22 Right. 23 MR. : He's no longer in MCC; 24 correct? 25 Right. SDNY_00007969 EFTA_0000 I 093 EFTA00135442 75 1 MR. : When was he released from 2 the facility? 3 He was released, I believe, 4 on Friday. sN/ 5 MR. : Okay. Was he transferred 6 out? Was he released from custody? Under what 7 conditions, do you know? 8 EMPLOYEE From what I understand, it 9 was with all belongings. So, I don't -- 10 MR. : Okay. 11 EMPLOYEE -- who took him. You can't, 12 I mean, even if you look on Sentry, you don't 13 know where he was -- 14 MR. : Um-hum. 15 Ipm4011*044. -- but when we looked at him 16 originall , , s:ill showed that he was going 17 to cou: 18 : Okay. 19 Immusimal So, that he was going to be 20 long-term. Now it's just showing there's no 21 DST. So, I don't know where Reyes is. 22 MR. : Okay. But he's not in 23 MCC? 24 IL::AI: LtZ.:L.1 No, he's not in MCC. 25 MR. : Okay. smuommo EFTA_0000I094 EFTA00135443 76 1 Uh -- 2 MR. : Prior to, you had, you 3 were very active in making sure that Epstein 4 had an appropriate cellmate? 5 NUSWELLIMil Right. 6 MR. : What were you, leading up 7 to the last week Friday, what were you aware of 8 Reyes, any court proceedings or any issues or 9 concerns about him leaving the MCC? 10 I was off on Friday. 11 : Okay. 12 EMPLOYEE So, I didn't know anything 13 about his court '2oceedings -- 14 MR. : Okay. 15 opm2owmplintil or or whatever. I just know 16 this fror - he fact. 17 MR. : Okay. When it comes to 18 Reyes, the staff in the Special Housing Unit, 19 how do they get notified of court dates, of the 20 probability of someone being released from the 21 facility? How does that process work? S s.)22 They get a call from 23 receiving, it's called receiving and discharge. 24 MR. : Okay. 25 Where the inmates are SDNY_00007971 EFTA_00001095 EFTA00135444 77 1 processed in and processed out. So, they get 2 notification that hey, such and such is 3 leaving, and send him down. 4 MR. : Okay. Does the MCC 5 usually, or sometimes, what's the, how often or 6 frequently does the MCC get advanced notice of 7 an inmate leaving? 8 EMPLOYEE It depends. If e 9 inmate's designated 10 MR. : Um-hum. 11 EMPLOYEE -- then we know in advance 12 he's designated. But usually the Marshalls 13 will come and say, whoever is picking him up, 14 "Hey, we're taking such and such." We might 15 get a list ahead of time if somebody's going to 16 maybe one of the county facilities or some they 17 just come and say, "Hey, we need this guy." 18 MR. : Okay. Ultimately Friday, 19 the 9t h, Reyes is discharged. 20 Um-hum. 21 MR. : Leaving Epstein, actually 22 let's talk about without a cellmate. Was there 23 a plan in place if that were to happen? 24 We'd review it and say, 25 okay, who can he be with? But he wouldn't have muommn EFTA_00001096 EFTA00135445 78 1 been alone. 2 MR. : Was there anybody in the 3 Special Housing Unit that was already vetted to 4 room with, or cell with Epstein? 5 No. Because again, didn't 6 anticipate Reyes leaving -- 7 MR. : Okay. 8 EMPLOYEE -- like that. But we 9 would've gotten somebody in there temporarily. 10 MR. : When did you first become 11 aware of Reyes leaving the MCC? 12 oprzizaigarnostiv After the death of Mr. 13 Epstein. 14 MR. : Okay. 15 ipmuaoramomoli um, when I came, you know, 16 that was like my first question was like, where 17 is his cellmate? 18 MR. : Okay. I was told he was gone. MR. When were you first 221 notified of the death of Epstein? I got a call about 6:50 and 23 told me that, hey 24 MR. : Okay. 25 -- that he attempted suicide SDNY_00007973 EFIA_00001097 EFTA00135446 79 1 and they were going through life-saving 2 measures. 3 MR. : And who contacted you? 4 My Associate Warden, 5 6 MR. 7 Yes. 8 MR. : Uh -- 9 MS. : Was she at the scene? 10 LNE No, she wasn't. The 11 Lieutenant had called the Captain. The Captain 12 called her, and then she called me. 13 MS. And is it Lieutenant 14 is that it? 15 ILIMAIIMMI Lieutenant was the 16 Operations Lieutenant. 17 MR. : Would you mind, in that 18 conversation, would you mind just telling us 19 about that conversation? 20 She told me Epstein, they il found him in his cell. They had a 1/4 lq... is 22 defibrillator on him and that they were working 23 on him. 24 MR. : Okay. 25 And when she told me that, I sormuommm EFTA_0000I098 EFTA00135447 80 1 was like, okay. Where are they at? Is EMS 2 coming in? She said she didn't have that much 3 information because the Lieutenant was down 4 with Epstein performing life-saving measures. 5 So, that's when I came in. 6 MR. : When did you start asking 7 questions about Reyes? On the phone or when 8 you arrived at the facility? 9 gralsoml*ENIN So, when I got there, I was 10 like, where is the cellmate. 11 MR. : Um-hum. 12 ipmulasmoomail I asked the Lieutenant, like 13 where is his cellmate, and Lieutenant said, "I 14 asked the same question when I went down and, 15 you know, started." He asked the officer, 16 "Where's his cellmate?" 17 And, yotAnow, just couldn't, you know, he 18 was disoriented and told me he had said that. 19 So, that's when we started, you know, started 20 the process of where's Reyes? 21 MR. : Just for timeline 22 purposes, about what time did you arrive? 23 I got there about 7:30. 24 MR. : Okay. Who within the 25 Special Housing Unit would've had the ability osuomms EFTA_00001099 EFTA00135448 81 1 or who within the Special Housing Unit would've 2 had the ability or the authority to back-fill 3 Reyes' spot as Epstein's cellmate? 4 EMPLOYEE 2 Well what would've happened, 5 which was instructed to them, was P NI, 6 MR. : Okay. 7 -- they would've told the 8 Lieutenant or Captain, hey, Reyes, I mean 9 Epstein needs a cellmate. And then we would've 10 started the process of getting him a cellmate. 11 Because when, and this was Epstein's routine. 12 He got up early in the morning at 8, and he 13 didn't come back to his cell until about 7:30 14 at night from his attorney visits. 15 Reyes left in the morning. So, he doesn't 16 come back to hiNtll until in the evening, /Ss 17 which on that particular day, he got back 18 about, from what I understand, around 6:45. 19 MR. : Okay. 20 EMPLOYEE L. Yeah. 21 MR. : You said that they were 22 instructed to notify that Epstein needed a ILIO 1 1(lpillim. 23 cellmate? 24 il>ta So, the Captain, as I told 25 you b SDNY_00007976 EFTA_0000II00 EFTA00135449 82 1 : Um-hum. 2 EMPLOYEE -- when I told them about 3 the expectations. 4 MR. Yep. 5 EMPLOYEE All that was Epstein needs 6 cellmate. 7 MR. Yep. 8 a NM And he's to be having a 9 cellmate at all times. If he doesn't, then 10 they need to notify you and then you can push 11 it up. 4 1\, 12 MR. So,liticzeld the Captain - 13 - 14 1 tojd the Captain 15 specifically 16 MR. : Okay. And the Captain was 17 to tell his, below him. 18 NOWISSEIMISI He conveyed it to the 19 Lieutenant, to the Officers, and disseminated 20 it out. 21 MR. : Okay. So, he should've 22 been notified. How should the notification 23 have worked? 24 When he 25 : -- when Reyes, realized sow_cammn EFTA_00001101 EFTA00135450 83 1 that Reyes was dismissed? 2 EMPLOYEE The Officers should've 3 called the Lieutenant -- 4 MR. : Which Officers? The ones working the unit? 6 : The Special Housing U 7 rogragonsimem The Special Housing i 8 Officers. 9 MR. : Okay. 4#4cIL 10 Because they know that he 11 packed up. They -- 12 MR. : Okay. 13 summummi So, once he gets packed up, 14 they gL: -- 15 MR. : Okay. 16 EMPLOYEE They should've known, hey, 17 let me notify and move it up the chain, Epstein 18 doesn't have a cellmate. 19 MR. : How does Reyes' belongings 20 get packed up? Who does that? 21 When the staff in SHU pack wicr 22 up his stuff. 4(;(1aMmr 23 MR. : Okay. So, the staff in 24 SHU would 25 They'll come to the door -- ummammn EFTA_00001102 EFTA00135451 84 1 : Um-hum. 2 EMPLOYEE 2 -- and if they say WAB, it's 3 with all belongings. 4 MR. : Okay. 5 imingigli So, they more than likely 6 just took his stuff -- 7 MR. : Um-hum. 8 EMPLOYEE -- and then whatever he had 9 in his cell, and if he had something in the 10 property room, they might've gone to get it. 11 Or if they didn't, then we would somewhere down 12 the line ship it to wherever his destination 13 is. 14 MR. : Is the staff that's 15 packing up Reyes' belongings different than the 16 Correctional Officers? 17 EMPLOYEE Reyes' property would've 18 been stored up in our Special Housing Unit. 9 MR. : Right. And then it would've been O22 1 23 taken by our Special Housing Unit staff to our receiving and discharge center. MR. : Is that staff, when you 24 say "staff", is that a different responsibility 25 than being a Correctional Officer? SDNY_00007979 EFTA_00001103 EFTA00135452 85 1 EMPLOYEE 2z Well we're all, we're all 2 correctional workers -- 3 MR. : Okay. 4 -- but their department is, 5 you know, the receiving and discharge 6 MR. : Um-hum. 7 ILUAAWASII -- of inmates. 8 : Okay. 9 EMPLOYEE So, that's where y process 10 in -- 11 : Gotyou. 12 ipmulocalmisoll -- or process out. So, they 13 would take the stuff down to them. They'd 14 process in and process out. 15 MR. : Okay. So, these are 16 people that are different, have different 17 responsibilities than, okay. 18 ILIMIONNIIII Right. 19 : I got it. 20 EMPLOYEE L. The Special House 1 MR. : Thank you for -- MS. : But the Officers in the 23 SHU would have been responsible for packing up 24 Reyes' belongings? 25 L 11_ Right. They would've taken miquommo EFTA_0000II04 EFTA00135453 86 1 all of his belongings. Now I don't know if he 2 has some property still in the property room. 3 But whatever was in his cell, they would've 4 gathered and taken down. 5 MR. : So, the Officers that are 6 in the Special Housing Unit either would have 7 actively participated or observed Reyes' 8 belongings being packed up and leaving? 9 spammmoittli Right, and taken. 1N‘d 10 again, I don't know where Reyes 11 MR. : Sure. 12 poinaornosom w if he went to PM\ 13 court. 14 MR. : Um-hum. 15 imagaming I don't know -- 16 : Right. 17 Ipogigonsimmtail -- but the terminology with 18 all belongings. 19 MR. : Sure. 20 EMPLOYEE L. So, he was being -- 1 MR. : Is there any documentation 22 or reports about when Reyes' belongings would 2 1(lpillim. 23 have been collected from Special Housing Unit? 24 EMPLOYEE 22 I wouldn' t say belongings, 25 but there would be something showing that he mrimammal EFTA_00001105 EFTA00135454 87 1 was departed the institution. 2 MR. : Okay. And that would be 3 in the system somewhere? 4 Uh, yeah. They would be \/. 5 receipts, but our receiving and discharge woul 6 have that. 7 MR. : Okay. 8 EMPLOYEE And it will also show in 9 Sentry, which we use to track on when he was 10 keyed out. 11 MR. : Okay. So, just to recap. 12 prziaomostom Um-hum; 13 MR. : The Officers that were 14 working in the Special Housing Unit would've 15 observed Reyes' belongings leaving. They were 16 instructed via the Captain through your orders N, 17 that if Epstein was to have a cellmate at all 18 times. 19 IIIIIIIIIIII At all times. 20 MR. : And that if that wasn't, 21 you know, supposed to be briefed up to the IL IO122 Captain and then ultimately to you. Is that 1(lpillim. 23 correct? 24 mususimil Right. The Lieutenant, if 25 the SHU Lieutenant was working, the SHU SDNY_00007982 EFTA_00001106 EFTA00135455 88 1 Lieutenant happened to be off that day. 2 MR. : Um-hum. 3 And then it goes up the 4 chain to notify somebody that he doesn't have a 5 celimate. 6 MR. : Okay. 7 MS. : So, the SHU Lieutenant was 8 off that day, you said? Air IL 4 9 papaosmemom He was off that day of -- 10 N:. : And which SHU was that? 11 EMPLOYEE Huh? It was the Lieutenant 12 at the time was 13 MS. 14 EMPLOYEE Uh, Lieutenant 15 MS. : So, who was the Acting 16 Supervisor? 17 We didn't, well the iiiiiihillii 18 Operations, if we don't have a SHU Lieutenant 19 on duty, the Operations Lieutenant is the 20 Lieutenant that would come up, make rounds, and 21 (Indiscernible *00:57:40). 22 MS. : Okay. And who was that on 23 Friday? 24 L:41 I don't recall. I have to 25 look at the roster. SDNY_00007983 EFTA_00001107 EFTA00135456 89 1 MR. : Okay. Let's talk a little ,e 2 bit about staffing that day. 3 ILIMAIMMII Okay. 4 M:-.. : Um -- 5 EMPLOYEE Well, can I -- : Yes. ILIMILIAAll -- say one thing? 8 : Of course. 9 ipmapcovms*II I sent a memorandum to, did 10 he give it to you? \ra w 11 MR. : On?_ 12 ipmulaimmisoll Well, I\$ a memorandum 13 this morning -- 14 MS. 7:1 morning, yes. 15 ipmaiolumnoll .Lthout the offices saying 16 that they knew that he left and when he left he 17 told the evening watch guy that Epstein needed 18 a cellmate. 19 MS. : Do you know why that's 20 dated today? 21 Because when I came in this morning, one of my Lieutenants came in and I / 1 4 4122 .0. lq... 23 asked him, I said, "Hey, have you heard 24 anything about what went on on Friday?" And 25 that's when he told me he had talked to the mrimammu EFTA_00001108 EFTA00135457 90 1 Officer, and the Officer told him he had 2 notified them as to that, you know, Epstein 3 needed a Bunkie. 4 MS. : Okay. And who 5 MilaZgan Um -- 6 MS. asked the Officer 7 put that in writing? 8 EMPLOYEE Uh, Lieutenant Fr 9 had told him to put it in writing. 10 MR. : Just for, uh, 11 (Indiscernible *00:58:59 if I may just 12 MS. : Yeah 13 MR. read it so we're on the 14 same page, here. 15 grinaimeittav urn-hum. 16 So, we have a memo dated 17 August 12, 2Clci 7O the Warden from -- 18 mamma (phonetic sp.) I 19 NR. 20 EMPLOYEE tr. Yeah. 21 MR. Um-hum. 23 MR. : And the subject is, Past 24 Information from Special Housing Units. 25 Um-hum. SDNY_00007985 EFTA_00001109 EFTA00135458 91 : And 2 EMPLOYEE 3 MR. : Was suggested, was told by 4 Lieutenan7 to write this memo? 5 EMPLOYEE Yes. 6 MR. : Okay. And the memo, just 7 8 MS. : I don't think you need to 9 (Indiscernible *00:59:26). 10 MR. Okay, 11 MS. : Yeah. 12 MR. : -- Just making 13 sure we're on -- 14 MS. ppreciate that, yeah. 15 MR. :"Overall staffing at MCC, 16 if we can just go down that road for right now. 17 Where, are you guys at full staff? Where are 18 you in terms of staffing levels? 19 EMPLOYEE We're understaffed. 20 : Okay. 21 EMPLOYEE So, we're starting the ILO/22 hiring process right now, but we do have to, 1(lpillim. 23 you know, there's some posts that we can't 24 fill. But -- 25 MR. : Where are you in terms of SON Y_00007986 EFTA_00001110 EFTA00135459 92 1 staffing? Like what percentage are you, would 2 you say? 3 EMPLOYEE I believe we're in our low 4 80s, high 70s. I'd have to look at the 5 staffing or whatever. 6 MR. : But somewhere around 80%. 7 EMPLOYEE 22 Right, but it doesn't only, 8 that's not the only issue. The only issue 9 MR. : Sure. 10 -- is like we, let's say 11 we're staffed to 80%, we've got about 30 people 12 that we can't use. Either they're on Workman's 13 Comp. They're on AWOL status. You name it, we 14 have it. But the problem is, it takes a while 15 to go through that process to remove an /1 . 16 employee. l‘Or 17 So, we can't just hire when you have a 18 bunch of people like that on you. So, that's 19 where we're at. 20 MR. : Okay. So, how do you as a 21 Warden and as an institution compensate for 22 being 20% understaffed? 23 EMPLOYEE. 4G Well, I mean everyone has to 24 chip in. I mean, we're not like the state 25 where you have your Correctional workers and SDNY_00007987 EFTA_00001111 EFTA00135460 93 1 you have the contractor workers. Everyone, 2 despite the fact that you might have a 3 different job title, you know how to perform 4 the functions of a Correctional Officer. You 5 have to qualify with weapons every year. You 6 take training on working the housing unitsA(and 7 the majority of them weren't hired off the 8 street as into their positions. There might be 9 a few. But the majority were Correctional 10 Officers and then promoted into the different 11 positions. 12 So, we have annual refresher training 13 every year where we train and move on like 14 that. But that's just not, it's not their 15 primary discipline, being a Correctional 16 Officer. 17 MR. : You said all staff are 18 trained as Corrections Officers? A 19 E:4P- The terminology is you're 20 Correctional workers. 21 MR. : Okay. 22 So, you know how to perform 23 the functions of a Correctional Officer. 24 MR. : Okay. 25 Carry firearms. You can do SDNY_00007988 EFTA_00001112 EFTA00135461 94 1 escorted trips. You could work the housing 2 unit. The only ones who probably are exempt 3 from that are doctors and attorneys and 4 psychologists, the professionals. But everyone 5 else, 6 MR. : And where do the 7 Correctional workers receive this training? 8 EMPLOYEE z_ Well initially you go to 9 Glencoe. 10 MR. Okay. 11 EMPLOYEE Everyone goes to Glencoe for 12 training. IL-IL* 11 13 MR. : Um-hum. 14 EMPLOYEE z And then specialized 15 training, we have annual refresher training 16 every year where've re-qualify and go over 17 certain correctional topics. 18 MR. : Okay. Let me ask you 19 about some specific people. 20 Okay. 21 MR. : If you happen to know if 22 they, what their primary duties are. 23 Okay. 24 MR. : Michael Thomas? 25 L`41 _:5'i He's a material handler SDNY_00007989 EFTA_00001113 EFTA00135462 95 1 foreman. 2 MR. : What is a material 3 handler? 4 They work in the warehouse. 5 So, in the warehouse, it has several functions. 6 You either work in the commissary which the 7 inmates shop for food. He can work in the 8 laundry where you do that, or you work in the 9 warehouse where you're processing -- 1%b 10 MR. : Um-hum. ► 11 EMPLOYEE -- in stuff. What's the 12 other one? We also have an outside warehouse 13 where we take deliveries. So, that's our, and 14 it's under our trust fund department. 15 MR. : Okay. And the night of 16 August 9th, August 10th -- 16 17 Right. 18 MR. : -- do you happen to know 19 if Mr. Thompson was working as a Correctional 20 Officer in that primary responsibility? 21 He was one of the Officers 22 in the Special Housing Unit. 23 MR. : Okay. Do you know how 24 often he works as a Correction, his 25 responsibility as an Officer? SDNY_00007990 EFTA_00001114 EFTA00135463 96 1 What they do is since he 2 works in that department, we might, if we need 3 him during the daytime, assign him over to the 4 department. But he does overtime. He was 5 working overtime then. So, we have a lot of 6 overtime. So, individuals in other depart 7 work the overtime. At a 8 MR. : Is that something they can 9 do voluntarily, or are they told to do that? 10 How does that work? Si -"sow - 11 EMPLOYEE We have a volunteer list for 12 the individuals that don't work in the 13 department. 14 MR. : O! y. 15 EMPLOYEE If you're a Correctional 16 Officer, we have what's called a mandation 17 list. So, if we call around and I say, "Hey, 18 we need somebody to work this", and everyone 19 turns it down and says, "No, I don't want to 20 work it", then we go to the mandation list. 21 MR. : Okay. 22 EMP-CYL1 22 Which is you're next up to 23 be mandated to work a post. 24 MR. : Okay. Um -- 25 MS. : Was he mandated that SDNY_00007991 EFTA_00001115 EFTA00135464 97 1 niH: 2 I believe he wasn't. He 3 wouldn't be mandated because he works as a 4 material handler foreman. / 5 MS. : Got it. 6 III So, he signed up for . it ,esgS : Okay. 8 EMPLOYEE Yeah. 9 MR. : So, just to clarify, the 10 Correctional Officers or only the Officers are 11 on the mandated list? 12 ipmulasmoomoil Right. 13 MR. : The rest of Correctional 14 workers have the opportunity to volunteer for 4E AI 15 overtime? 16 gpmwmwomoil Right. You volunteer for 17 overt':. 18 : Okay. 19 imingsgi Or during the daytime, I can 20 say, "Look I need to fill these posts. I need 21 you to come from your department to work over 22 in Correctional services." 23 MR. : Okay. Noel (phonetic 24 sp.). 25 Uh, is a Correctional SDNY_00007992 EFTA_00001116 EFTA00135465 98 1 Officer. 2 MR. : She's a Corrections 3 Officer? 4 Corrections Officer. 5 MR. : Okay. Do you happen to 6 know if she was working overtime or her re 7 shift that day? -r 8 I'm not sure. I think iS 9 might've been (Indiscernible *01:04:52). I'm 10 not sure. I think her regular, I'm not sure. 11 MR. Okay. 12 IpmulmillAmitill Her regular shift was 13 evening watch, and then she did it. So -- 14 MR. : Okay. 15 MS. Does she typically work in 16 the SHU?"\ L 17 P Uh, yes. She's been 18 (Indiscernible *01:05:01). 19 MS. : Okay. 20 EMPLOYEE -. And I don't know if that was 21 her assigned quarterly post, but I do believe / 1 4 j22 it is. 4(:IP ::Mmt 23 24 25 MR. =FL. — MR. ._. : Captain He's the Captain. ? ? c SDNY_00007993 EFTA_00001117 EFTA00135466 99 1 ? He's an 2 Officer. 3 MR. : He's an Officer? 4 ILUMMIIIII Yeah. 5 EMPLOYEE He's an Officer. 7 : Michael Davis? 8 He's an Officer. 9 MR. onetic 10 sp.)? 11 EMPLOYEE She is the psychologist. 12 MR. : Okay. So, the only one, 13 the only one, Michael Thomas, is the only one 14 who's primary responsibility is not an Officer? 15 Ipmulaswoommil And 16 , yep. Okay, great. Nk 17 MS. : Are you notified when a 18 Corrections Officer is mandated to work 19 overtime? Who makes that decision? 20 Emt..viza The Lieutenant on shift 21 handles that. x , 22 MR. : What are the rules, or any 23 policies in terms of overtime? Is there a 24 limit? Is there, how does the overtime work? 25 Is there a cap in terms of hours a week? SDNY_00007994 EFTA_00001118 EFTA00135467 100 EMPLOYEE 2z It's voluntary. 2 : Okay. 3 EMPLOYEE And then it's, like you NA, 4 said, the prison business is 24 hours. 5 MR. : Um-hum. 6 EMPLOYEE We don't have the luxury to 7 turn around and say we can't fill a post. Now 8 I might have a post that might require, you 9 know, X amount of people, but I have to staff 10 it at a minimum where we're safe coming and 11 going. 12 MR. : Um-hum. 11 13 EMPLOYEE So, there's really no set 14 amount. I mean, depending, you know, I've been 15 here, when I first got here where our staffing 16 was really bad where people were doing four a 17 week. 18 MR. : When you say -- le You know? 20 : -- "four a week", what is 1 22 Mail.11211 Four overtimes a week. 23 MR. : Now is, when you say, what 24 is an overtime? Is that like another 8-hour 25 shift? SDNY_00007995 EFTA_00001119 EFTA00135468 101 1 Another 8-hour shift. 2 MR. : Okay. So, you 3 So, it depends on, you know, 4 the number of people we have, those 5 volunteering. So, right now we're in the 6 hiring process where we are getting, you know, 7 bodies to fill in these positions. 8 MR. : So, an overtime shift is 9 eight additional hours? 10 Eight additional hours. 11 MR. : Okay. Is there any -- 12 MS. : Go ahead. 13 MR. -- is there any limit on 14 how many 16-hour days a week an employee can 15 work? 16 LN1 You just can't exceed the 17 amount of 16 hours in a day. 18 MR. : Could you explain that for 19 me? 20 Okay. You work eight hours. 21 MR. : Right. 22 imummillii You can only work 16 hours 23 that day. 24 MR. : Okay. 25 _ You can't work 24 hours. SDNY_00007996 EFTA_00001120 EFTA00135469 102 1 You can't, you're not like a fireman where, you 2 know, you're on duty 24 hours in. 3 MR. : Okay. EMPLOYEE 2 SO, there's a limit on the 5 daily. 6 : Okay. 7 Irgwmwoomitsql That you can do. / 4C2 S/ 8 MR. : But there's no limit on 9 how many days in a row you can work those 16 10 hours? 11 EMPLOYEE No. If somebody wants to, 12 they could. 13 MR. : Do you have any unofficial 14 or any guidance nn that front? 15 Ipmwanyamomoig No, not really, because I 16 mean yo.: ave some people that sign up for 17 overtime. 18 MR. : Got you. 19 ilimmill You know? They say -- 20 MR. : Um-hum. 11‘ -- hey, they might, I don't O2 2 know people's financial situations. 4q0:7mir 23 MR. : Right. 24 mazumull But they might say, hey, you 25 know, . need to get some extra money -- C SDNY_00007997 EFTA_00001121 EFTA00135470 103 1 : Yeah. 2 EMPLOYEE -- for X, Y and Z. So, I 3 don't know the specifics -- 4 MR. : Okay. Ipowiwommell -- on why somebody would. 6 MR. : You know I had a previous 7 job where my supervisor wouldn't let us work 21 8 days in a row. We had to take that 22nd day 4 9 off. 10 Right. 11 MR. : Do you g ave anything 12 unofficial like that that -- / -1 4 13 was Well they have their two 14 days off. 15 : p Okay. 16 irwarmiery So, you get two days off. 17 Sc -- 18 : Is that -- NUAAMILVIII -- and that -- MR. : Is it required that they take those two days? Yeah. You take your two O221 23 days. What you choose to do with those two 24 days is your business. But we don't, like if 25 someone, it has to be an emergency. Let's say SDNY_00007998 EFTA_00001122 EFTA00135471 104 1 it's your Friday. You won't get mandated on a 2 Friday because Federal Law states you have to 3 have X amount of hours off during the week. 4 MR. : Okay. 5 iguingigli In conjunction to days off. 6 So, (Indiscernible *01:08:57). 7 MR. : So, the most 16-hour days 8 an employee can work is five, so they have two 9 days off? 10 Well not/ necessarily, 11 because you could say he want to work on my 12 days off. 4 44%.,IL ' 13 MR. Okay. So, you can come in 14 on your days off then? 15 EMPLOYEE On your days off. That's 16 voluntary. 17 : Okay. 18 EMPLOYEE I can't just turn around -- 19 MR. : Sure. 20 EMPLOYEE L. -- and say you have to stay 21 but if ye-..1 want 22 MR. : Okay. 23 Um -- 24 MR. : Okay. Anything on the 25 overtime? SDNY_00007999 EFTA_00001123 EFTA00135472 105 1 MS. : No. 2 MR. : Okay. Talk a little bit 3 about the cameras in the facility. 4 Okay. 5 MR. What is your understandirai IY IIIIIP 6 on the general reliability of them? 7 EMPLOYEE 22 They're not good. We were 8 just funded to get new cameras installed but, 9 you know, when you're installing the cameras, 10 there's a lot you have to do. The building is 11 built in 1975. It's not like a new building, 12 and we've got to go through cinderblock. 13 There's a lot of things that, you know, are in 14 that block. Asbestos. So, we have to do the 15 wiring. SO, the system is outdated. Um -- 16 MR. : When you say they're not, 17 are they not reliable? Is it poor quality in 18 recording? What's the -- 19 EMPLOYEE It's the recording, but what 20 do they call that, the DVRs? 21 MR. : Okay. The ones that hold the -Imw;.--- 22 4(;(0:7mmr 23 recordings, they're breaking down. So, 24 sometimes we have where they're not recording. 25 We have to get it fixed, you know, more along SDNY_00008000 EFTA_00001124 EFTA00135473 106 1 those lines. 2 MR. : How were you aware, how 3 are you as the Warden made aware of cameras not 4 working appropriately or any issues with the 5 recording devices? 6 The department head would Alli P.. %b 7 bring it up to me, or the Associate Warden 8 would tell me, you know, we were informed that 9 the cameras aren't working. 10 MR. : What is the normal 11 procedure when the cameras go down? 12 ipmulasmoomill So, if the cameras go down, 13 then the contact has to look and determine 14 what's the problem with the cameras. 15 MR. Okay. How long would you 16 say that the cameras have been unreliable? 17 Et<?_,UYEE z What do you mean by 18 "unreliable?" 19 MR. : I'm sorry, how long would 20 you say the cameras have been not working? 21 gingsuggili ll They work, but periodically 22 they go down. 23 MR. : Okay. 24 opm*smomoll That's what I meant by it, 25 but they do record. You can, you know, it's SDNY_00008001 EFTA_00001125 EFTA00135474 107 1 the quality. Like you go to some places and 2 some agencies where you have that bird vision 3 type camera. That's not what we have. 4 MR. : Okay. 5 LAIL L: I mean, it's, you can see 6 things, we can do some identifying, but th 7 not, you know, and they're only in certain 8 locations. 9 MS. : And again, the chain of 10 notification is the staff, the Corrections 11 Officers or Corrections worker notifies the 12 Shift Lieutenant? N :', 13 Ipmwinyliomogg As far as with the cameras? 14 : Yes. If they're -- 15 Wiallailla It depends on 16 : -- not operating. 17 gammiggi -- who's using the cameras 18 and revieT0Ing the cameras. 19 MS. : Okay. 20 EMPLOYEE 2z You know, usually our : investigative department's doing it, and they do the check, and if they come in and check and O2 23 check the cameras and say, stuff's not 24 recording, then they notify the Comp Shop or 25 the facilities manager and say, hey, we have a ciglaillit SDNY_00008002 EFIA_00001126 EFTA00135475 108 1 problem. The cameras are not recording. 2 MS. : So, does SIS have a room 3 where they can see the cameras in the facility? 4 We have a, the camera room 5 is in our communications room behind that area. 6 MS. : Okay. So, if a camera, if 7 the camera in the SHU was not working -- 8 EMPLOYEE Um-hum. 9 MS. : -- someone in that camera 10 room would be able to see t at there's no feed 1-1 L ‘ 11 from that particular camera? 12 EMPLOYEE It's not the feed, it's the 13 recording. You can have, you always have the 14 life feed that you can see what's going on. 15 it's the recording of it. 16 MS. : Um-hum. 17 And the recordings I 18 typically, and don't quote me on it, are on a 19 two-week or less timeline. So, what it is is, 20 if it gets to that two-week period, the memory 21 gets full, then it starts re-recording over 22 again. So, that's how most camera systems 23 work. 24 MS. : But if for instance a 25 camera in the SHU was down -- SDNY_00008003 EFTA_00001127 EFTA00135476 109 1 Right. 2 MS. : -- someone in that camera 3 room would see that the camera was down. 4 Or the SIS would check and 5 say, determine hey the recordings are not down 6 or yeah, you're right, or even the screen./IL_ 7 MS. : Um-hum. 8 LA1 _ If we didn't have a visual 9 screen to say, hey, there's problems with the 10 camera. 11 MS. : And did that happen with 12 the SHU camera? Was anyone notified that it •. 13 wasn't working? 14 and this is what I was 15 told after the fact the SIS Lieutenant I 16 believe conveyed that to the Communication 17 Officer that there was a problem with the 18 cameras. 19 MS. : Is that Lieutenant 20 (phonetic sp.)? 21 ILVISMIIII Lieutenant . - - ,,,,,,,,,22 MS. : And it's a she? lm. 23 rair•Yoisti Yes, she. 24 MS. : When did she know about 25 it? SDNY_00008004 EFTA_00001128 EFTA00135477 110 1 I believe she told me she 2 told him on Thursday that she made a 3 notification for it. 4 MS. : Okay. 5 MINIZOISM um -- 6 MS. : And that would be an 7 notification? 8 9 L II_ MS. I'm not sure. Okay. (/ 10 But she <id‘plillp notified 11 him. So -- \\S 12 MS. : Okay. 13 MR. : Are you made aware of 14 those notifications as well that the cameras 15 are down and not working? 16 irwaoyaszeiry It would depend. 17 : Okay. 18 imaimmil You know, on how bad it was. 19 If it was something that you can run out and 20 fix immediately, you know, it would say, hey, 21 you know, we can fix it. But if it was 22 something that was going to be for a while, I 23 would have to be notified. 24 MR. : And were you notified of 25 this? SDNY_00008005 EFTA_00001129 EFTA00135478 111 I was told on Saturday. : Okay. You were told after EMPLOYEE After -- 6 : -- the fact. 7 -- the fact I was told. 8 : Okay. 9 That the cameras weren't 10 working. 11 MR. : I'm sorry, just who 12 notified you of this? 13 ip3mgaitowetitg y nant told me. 14 MR. : 1,' utenant, okay. Talking 15 about, let's about phone calls in the SHU. 16 ILIUMMISMI Um-hum. Nk 17 MR. : What are the regulations 18 or policies about giving inmates unreported 19 phone calls? 20 EMPLO During the intake screening, 21 you can come in and in certain SHU situations, 22 an inmate will get an unmonitored call if they 23 don't have their telephone account set up. 24 MR. : okay. 25 So, they're afforded that SONY_00008006 EFTA_00001130 EFTA00135479 112 1 opportunity. 2 MR. : How does the inmate get a 3 telephone account set up? 4 Typically he has to go out 5 of SHU into a housing unit and go through 6 voice recognition process in order to get 7 up for it. You can't do it in the Special. 8 Housing Unit. 9 MR. : And we said earlier that 10 Mr. Epstein was never left, was always in 11 Special Housing Unit. 12 ipmulasmoostill Was always in the Special 13 Housing Unit. Alit& 14 MR. : Did he have an opportunity 15 to get a -Ielenhone account set up? 16 rDIZI2Koldalegral The problem with Mr. Epstein 17 was he was in the attorney room all day. 18 MR. : Okay. 19 main From beginning to end, and 20 that's something that you do during the daytime 21 because our communications people are there. 22 So, we did, and then again, he had to be in an 23 assigned unit to get that. It's just to have 24 it set up. 25 MR. : Okay. Was Mr. Epstein SDNY_00008007 EFTA_00001131 EFTA00135480 113 1 allowed phone calls? 2 EM?-OYEE zz Was he what? 3 MR. : Was Mr. Epstein allowed 4 phone calls? 5 EMPLOYEE 4- Yeah. His initial one, he 6 didn't get his initial one, so we had to give 7 him a call, his initial call when he came in. 8 MR. : Okay. I Nk,, ‘Or 9 EMPLOYEE Then while you're in the 10 Special Housing Unit, you're en to one 11 call every 30 days. 12 MR. : Okay. %b 13 magigaggiggi So, he was entitled to a 30- 14 day phone call. 15 MR. : And are those normally 16 monitored, recorded? How do those? 17 Typically in his case, that 18 he didn't have his monitor set up, the unit 19 manager stood there and listened to the call. 20 MR. : Okay. Um -- 21 MS. : And would that be the 22 Lieutenant? 23 MR. : No. It was the Unit 24 Manager. 25 MS. : And who would that be? SDNY_00008008 EFTA_00001132 EFTA00135481 114 1 MR. : That was 2 3 MS. : Okay. 4 So -- 5 MR. : So, should 6 have been listening to that phone call? 7 Right, and from wha 8 understand, he was listening. 9 MR. : Okay. Are those phone 10 calls recorded anywhere to ensure just to -- 11 LA:._ No, they're not recorded, 12 but we can trace the phone line to get the 13 phone number. 14 MR. : Okay. 15 ipmalcol*milim To determine where the call 16 was made. Nk 17 MR. : Okay. And in tracing of 18 that to get the phone number, is the length of 19 the call -- 20 Yes. 21 MR. : -- noted as well? 22 INVISIMIIIII Yes. 23 MR. : Okay. But in terms of 24 putting that into a system or a monitoring, 25 there's not a database for that? SDNY_00008009 EFTA_00001133 EFTA00135482 115 1 EMPLOYEE 2z We didn't, because again, he 2 wasn't set up. 3 MR. : Okay. Are you aware of 4 how many phone calls Mr. Epstein's made while 5 in the Special Housing Unit? 6 EMPLOYEE I'm not sure. I'm not aware 7 how many made. But I don't, I know he made 8 that one 9 MR. : Um-hum. 10 -- that day and I'm aware of 11 the initial one, but I don't believe he made 12 that many, because I do believe I saw a 13 correspondence that his attorney made to our 14 attorney about him getting a phone call. 15 MR. : Okay. 16 That he hadn't gotten a 17 phone call. So, there's some correspondence on 18 that. 19 MR. : Okay. You got any else on 20 the -- 21 MS. : No. 22 MR. : Okay. 23 MR. III: Let's go over real quick 24 (Indiscernible *01:18:13). 25 MR. : We covered this a little SIDNY_00008010 EFfA_0O001134 EFTA00135483 116 1 earlier. I just wanted to go over it again. 2 When were you first notified of Mr. Epstein's 3 suicide, or medical, or situation? 4 About 6:45 -- 5 : Okay. 6 IMISSUUMBil -- 6:50. : Who did you notify? EMPLOYEE I immediately called my boss Okay. ip -- to let now and then 12 tell him that I was o the 13 institution. 14 MR. you notify anybody 1 15 else? 16 romanymevil Who, me? 17 MR. : Yes. 18 gligiugligg No. I just, I let him know, 19 get dressed, get to the institution. 20 MR. : Okay. When you arrived at 21 the institution, did you speak to any staff 22 there? 23 EMELOYEE ee When I got there, I saw 24 obviously the Lieutenant. Um 25 MR. : Which -- SIDNY_00008011 EFTA_00001135 EFTA00135484 117 1 : Lieutenant 2 EMPLOYEE Uh, Lieutenant when he 3 came in and my first, you know, any time you 4 have a suicide attempt, you want to make sure 5 your staff are all right and how they're doing_ 6 So, I went to, you know, to check on him to 7 kind of get a debrief on what was going on. He 8 kind of debriefed me on the situation. Um -- 9 MR. : What did Lieutenant 10 tell you? 11 EMPLOYEE - So, I asked him, so I 12 basically told him what happened, and he said, 13 he talked to Officer Noel and she said we 14 didn't do the 3 o'clock count or the 5 o'clock 15 count. 16 And then he aid he talked to Noel, Armw 17 Officer Noel, and she said, no he talked to 18 Officer Thomas and that Officer Thomas said, "I 19 messed up. We messed up." Something about it's 20 not her fault. But he said he was just talking 21 way off the line. 22 Let me back-track a little. I did make 23 one more call, because I couldn't get in 24 contact with Lieutenant I called up to 25 the Special Housing Unit. SDNY_00008012 EFTA_00001136 EFTA00135485 118 1 : Okay. 2 EMPLOYEE And I believe Ms. Noel 3 picked up the phone, and I asked her, you know, 4 what was going. And she told me what was going 5 on. But she really couldn't talk. So, then I I1 6 came, when I got to the institution, I saw her/it__ 7 and I said, "Hey, are you all right? Is 8 everything fine." And she was like okay. 9 So, I had somebody from our crisis support 10 team that was there talk to her to make sure 11 that she was all right, and then I went to try 12 to find Thomas. She said Thomas had left. 13 So, I said, okay, "Left where? Where did 14 he go?" 15 They said, you know, "He went home He 16 was distraught." 17 So, then I get another call saying Thomas 18 was outside, and that he told me, "I'm not 19 answering any questions from you. I want my 20 union", I said Thomas, "I'm not concerned about 21 what happened. I'm concerned about your well- 22 being. Make sure you're all right. You've 23 been through a traumatic experience", and he 24 just kept talking. 25 So, there was a staff member out there. I SDNY_00008013 EFTA_00001137 EFTA00135486 119 1 said, try to find him if he's outside. So, 2 they went outside and they said, you know, he 3 was gone. 4 I didn't see Ms. Noel, but I told them to 5 get a memorandum from her on what happened. 6 They told me said she wasn't feeling well and 7 she had to talk to her Union rep. 8 So, and I said, "You know what, let them 9 go. We'll get back with them or somebody will 10 get back with them." And they left.ifrAnd we 11 just started the process of collecting and 12 preserving. 13 MS. Have Noel or Thomas been 14 in to work since then? 15 raoriaineat No. Noel, I sent some 16 support staff on Sunday to go talk to them. 17 Today, the mother of Thomas' child, she works 18 at the institution but they're not together, 19 said, "Hey, he was with her all weekend but she 20 can't get in contact with him." I sent her and 21 a Lieutenant to go over to his house to find 22 out if he's okay. He called me a little irate 23 saying, "You know, you're sending people to my 24 house. You know, I was sleeping." 25 I said, "I'm checking on your well-being", SDNY_00008014 EFTA_00001138 EFTA00135487 120 1 you know. And then I didn't know, and I asked 2 him, I said, "Did you call in for work today?" 3 And he said, "Yes, I did." And he said, 4 "He was sleeping and he was tired." 5 And I said, "Well I'm just checking on 6 your well-being and just seeing how you ar 7 and I left it at that. 8 MS. : That was this morning? 9 gpamwmeNis That was this morning. 10 MS. • So, he basically called in 11 sick today? 12 He called in sick today. 13 She's on days off Monday and Tuesday. 14 MS. Okay. 15 EMPLOYEE 2 I'm going to assign both of 16 them with no inmate contact, so they're going 17 to be away from inmates and assigned on the 18 outside (Indiscernible *01:23:09). 19 MS. : And then Lieutenant 20 EMPIC E_ And then that's basically 21 what Lieutenant told me, and I told him, 22 "Write a memorandum on what was said", and he ILO' 23 wrote the memorandum and he submitted it. 24 MS. : Has he been in to work 25 since Saturday? SIDNY_00008015 EFTh_00001139 EFTA00135488 121 1 Yes, he did. Actually he 2 stayed there late on Saturday. He basically 3 worked a double, and then he came back and 4 worked during the day on it. So, he hasn't 5 taken any time off. 6 7 MS. EMPLOYEE 22 : Is he there He's there. 8 today, so he's working here. He's t,;:; ,: 9 MS. : And -- 10 Oh, and I do have an 11 addition. And I did ask him, you know, when he 12 got there what happened, and he says, he 13 doesn't know what the condition was because 14 when Thomas called for the emergency medical, 15 he opened the door and took him down himself 16 and started life-saving measures. 17 MS. : So, Epstein was hanging 18 from the 19 We don't know what he was 20 doing because Thomas was the first one there, 21 and when responding staff came, he was already 22 there doing compressions and life-saving 23 measures. So, I definitively can't say where, 24 was he hanging? What position he was or not 25 because nobody knows when they responded, so. SDNY_00008016 EFTA_OOOO114O EFTA00135489 122 1 MR. : What is the policy 2 regarding if an Officer or staff member sees an 3 inmate in that situation? 4 EMPLOYEE 2 Okay. And I won't want to 5 quote this is a policy thing, but you call for 6 assistance and you wait for assistance to come 7 because you don't know if that's a ploy. So, 8 if you go in there as one person, and you know, 9 when somebody's hanging, that's dead. That is 10 dead weight. 11 So, you go in there, you don't know if 12 it's a ploy. So, you go in there and get 13 overpowered, guess what? Now that individual 14 has the cell door keys for every key on that 15 range, and that could be a recipe for disaster. 16 So, it might sound inhumane that, you 17 know, we have to wait because the individual on 18 the grill can't come down range either because 19 if they get overpowered, guess what, we've lost 20 a l:hole unit. And that's the most secure unit 21 in the institution. 22 So, she has to stay outside with the keys 23 on the grill because there are two different 24 keys. They don't mix. And we wait for 25 responding staff to come in and perform, you SDNY_00008017 EFTA_00001141 EFTA00135490 123 1 know, the life-saving measures without 2 endangering your safety. 3 So, he went in and, you know, so again, 4 there's no idea of what the cell looked like, 5 what his position was, or anything. 6 MS. : Captain and Ca 7 , are they at work now? 8 EMPLOYEE Captain 9 : I think. 10 His secretar 11 : Okay. 12 raoaornistry Yeah. %b 13 : That may be a mistake. 14 EMPLOYEE Yeah. 15 MS. : So, Captain was the 16 Captain on Friday; right? t 17 Yes. 18 MS. : Okay. 19 And I need to, and I'm not 20 sure if he was at work either. I think he 21 might've been off. But is his 22 secretary. 23 MS. , okay. And 24 Lieutenant is it 25 was the SDNY_00008018 EFTA_00001142 EFTA00135491 124 1 midnight Lieutenant. 2 MS. : Okay. And he, she? 3 She worked, apparently she 4 worked at night and relieved her early. 5 MS. : Okay. 6 At 5:33, but then I heard J/ d-_ 7 she came back and then left again. So, I don't 8 know, I believe she went up to the hat.\\ // -* 9 MS. : Has she been at work since 10 then? V • • • 11 I believe on days off. 12 MS. : Okay.' 13 I= illin So, she'll be back tonight. 14 MS. : Okay. Do you want to step 15 out for a minute? 16 MR. : Actually before -- ... 17 MS. : Unless you have anything 18 (Indiscernible *01:27:13). 19 MR. : Just a few -- 20 EMPLOYEE L. Okay. O 1(lpillim. 1 MR. 22 little bit. 23 : -- if I can jump back a Okay. 24 MR. : Specifically go back to, 25 did you have any one-on-one interactions with SDNY_00008019 EFTA_00001143 EFTA00135492 125 1 Epstein? 2 Let's see, I had one, I saw 3 him by the attorney visit, small conversation. 4 Another one I saw him when I was making rounds 5 on the unit when he had first gotten into the 6 cell with Reyes. He was going into the shower. 7 I asked him, "How was everything going." He 8 said, "I'm good. I'm fine." AO/ 9 And then Reyes, I said, "How's he doing?" 10 Reyes was like, "I want to go back to a unit." 11 So, you know, was just that type of 12 conversation while making rounds. 13 MR. : Okay. Thank you. 14 EMPLOYEE z. Okay. 15 MR. And did you want just step 16 outside? 17 EMPLOYEE z. Huh? 18 MR. III: Do you mind if we just take a 19 step out? 20 No, I have no problem. 21 MR. : It is 12:23. We're 22 pausing the interview. 23 We're resuming the interview at this time. 24 It is 12:29 in the afternoon. 25 MS. : Okay. So, the first SDNY_00008020 EFTA_00001144 EFTA00135493 126 1 question is, I just want to make sure we have 2 the name right. 3 Okay. 4 MS. : The Lieutenant or the 5 Captain that you told that Epstein should have 6 a cellmate? 7 Well, it was Captain 8 9 MS. , okay. 10 Yeah. 11 MS. : Okay. And I know you're 12 probably already doing this, but we just wanted 13 to make sure you're preserving all of the 14 emails that you referenced, any text messages 15 that you've sent about this, any communications 16 that you've had at all. 17 Y EL z.z. Well when I had gave the 18 direction, it was given verbally in a meeting. MS. Um-hum. Ae9 20 EMPLOYE_ I didn't send emails out. I 1 had a direct conversation. 922 MS. : Okay. 23 OPN2KWOOMISIN So, it was everyone in the 24 room. Sc. -- 25 MS. : Okay. But for instance, SDNY_00008021 EFTA_00001145 EFTA00135494 127 1 the email that you sent listing here are the 2 three possibilities for -- 3 imaggsgm Oh, yes. 4 M:. : -- who's 5 EMPLOYEE All of that -- 6 : -- the best. All of that. 7 pntairowerm Yeah. If you want that 8 : -- you're preserving. 9 gpaiworogetvg that's there. It's 10 preserved. 7fillrap 11 MS. : Okay. 12 MR. : I'm sure this will 13 inevitably happen, and it's a report for this. 14 Has that already been drafted? Is that a s 15 process? 16 romtanynew, For? Nk 17 MR. : Will there be an incident 18 report regarding the discovery of Jeffrey 19 Epstein's body? 20 It's called a report of IIIIIIIIIIII 21 incident, a 583. So, we did that today. 22 MR. : Okay. 23 You know 24 MR. : Um-hum. 25 -- just a brief statement on SDNY_00008022 EFTA_0000II46 EFTA00135495 128 1 what happened, the times -- 2 MR. : Okay. 3 -- and moving forward with 4 that. 5 MR. : Do you know who draf ed tie:;kmur 6 that? 7 The SIS Lieutenant does it.\k, 8 : Okay. 9 uppaisometivi And then I review it because 10 it's ultimately sent from me. It's a report of 11 incident -- 12 MR. : Um-hum. 13 mingusal to our central office. 14 So, I look at it, the synopsis. A 15 MR. : Okay. 16 Irgi2oldszwal Just for terminology to make 17 sure it's accurate. And it's just a brief 18 statement saying that, you know, he made 19 rounds. 20 MR. : Um-hum. 21 malgamill He was unresponsive. Life- ILIO1 22 saving measures were initiated. Taken to the 4(:IP:76. 23 outside hospital and then he was pronounced 24 deceased at that time. And then we just move 25 on from there. SDNY_00008023 EFTA_00001147 EFTA00135496 129 : Just a couple of more -- 2 EMPLOYEE Um-hum. 3 MR. : -- housekeeping stuff just 4 to say, have you had any contact with the press 5 regarding this? 6 No, I have not. 7 MR. : Has any press con 8 you directly? 9 irinsoll*mome No, they have not. 10 MR. : Have you directed any 11 staff to destroy anything? 12 ipmzgaoroomome No, I have not. 13 MR. : What directions have you 14 given the staff in terms of preserving things? 15 gralanienialte So, initially when we came, 16 when _ jot in, I told the Captain, get all the 17 log books up there, the rounds, anything 18 pertaining to get it and anything we can think 19 of that might be needed. And it's given to the 20 SIS. It's in the SIS office with the SIS 21 Lieutenant. 22 So, told them to preserve it, and whoever 23 needed it, I know the IG has come by. They've 24 taken some stuff. But basically preserve 25 everything that might be needed to be SDNY_00008024 EFTA_00001148 EFTA00135497 130 1 preserved. And then if any requests come, you 2 know, we'll go and get it and preserve it. 3 MR. : Are you -- 4 MS. : Can I just ask one quick Ici:SO #r 5 question about the log books? 6 Yeah. 7 MR. : Actually 8 looking at it -- while;<(/ 9 MS. : Yeah. 10 MR. : -- do you mind? 11 MS. : This is -- 12 MR. : Are you aware of any .w, 13 objects missing from his cell? Are you aware 14 of anything peculiar occurring since his 15 suicide? Since his body was discovered? 16 irganynietim You mean missing from his AF 17 cell? 18 MR. : Yes. 19 ENP-flYE,7 24 I didn't observe the cell, 20 so I don't know what's in -- 21 MR. : Were you ever notified of 22 any, after his body was discovered, have you 23 been notified of any peculiarities or anything 24 that stuck out in your mind as odd? 25 As far as what would've been SDNY_00008025 EFTA_00001149 EFTA00135498 131 1 in his cell, or? 2 MR. : Anything in general as it 3 relates to him? 4 Not that I can think of. I 5 mean, it's just documents that we're still \* 6 trying to gather -- 7 MR. : Sure. 8 EMPLOYEE -- and locate, but - 9 MR. : It's nothing odd b cause I 10 don't know what happened in that cell. 11 EMPLOYEE Um-hum. 12 MR. : So, I don't know what 13 would be -- 14 EMPLOYEE 2 CP: 15 MR. : -- considered odd. Were 16 you aware of him having any contraband in his 17 cell? 18 ILISVAIIIII Contraband? 19 : Anything -- 20 PLOYEE L. Well -- it 1 MR. : -- he wasn't supposed to O2 2 have? Any unapproved things in his cell? 40QII7my 23 No. 24 MR. : Okay. 25 I mean, he would've received SDNY_00008026 EFTA_00001150 EFTA00135499 132 1 an incident report. 2 MR. : Okay. 3 And the only incident report 4 he had was, I guess it was the cloth that was 5 found on the initial one, but then our 6 Disciplinary Hearing Officer concluded that we 7 couldn't' sustain any charges on him because it 8 was inconclusive 9 MR. : Okay. 10 -- with it, but that's -- 11 MR. : Okay. And were you aware 12 of him having any enemies or anything, or being 13 a specific target by anybody? 14 EMPLOYEE where? 15 : In the institution? 16 EMPLOYEE No. I mean no one's came to 17 me specifically saying, you know, "He's my 18 enemy", or all that, so I don't, you know. 19 MR. : Was he not to be, not to 20 be celled with anybody because of any problems 21 that he would have, or -- 22 I mean. 23 MR. : Let me rephrase that a 24 little. Were you aware of any other inmates 25 who had targeted him specifically? SDNY_00008027 EFTA_00001151 EFTA00135500 133 No. : Okay. Um-hum. : The log books EMPLOYEE Um-hum. "1( 6 MS. : -- just for the recor 7 I'm showing a log book Tier G dated O8/2O0: ` Ar r 8 EMPLOYEE Right. Ir 9 MS. : So, this is filled out by 10 a Corrections Officer EMPLOYEE Right. oing the checks 14 EMPLOYEE Right. 15 : -- every 30 minutes. 16 Irmwmaxiswil Um-hum. Nk 17 : Correct? 18 Yes. 19 MS. : And they're supposed to 20 write the time they start and end and then 21 initial it? 22 glimuggim Who did it. 23 MS. : And then the Operations 24 Lieutenant signs it at the end of the shift. 25 The shift that they reviewed SDNY_00008028 EFTA_00001152 EFTA00135501 134 1 it. 2 MS. : Okay. Okay. 3 This is not complete for the 4 simple fact that, you know, with the emergency 5 coming, I had them take it and preserve it. 6 So, it was part of the preservation. So, 7 that's probably why it doesn't go all 8 up to 8 o'clock. 9 MS. : Got it. 10 Because as soon as I came 11 in, I told the Lieutenant grab the 30-minute 12 checks. 13 MS. : And is this a signature or 14 a circle for a signature? 15 EMPLOYEE That's a signature. 16 : Okay. 17 magsmilli Whoever was in, and I 18 believe, and I'm not sure, but if it was the 19 morning watch Lieutenant, it would be 20 Lieutenant • 21 MS. 22 Yeah. 23 MS. : I think that's all the 24 questions that we have. 25 MR. : Great. That's it. The SDNY_00008029 EFfA_O00O1153 EFTA00135502 135 1 time is now 12:35. Warden, we really 2 appreciate your time. 3 Okay. 4 MR. : And the interview is 5 completed, oh actually before we do that. Is_ 6 there anything that you would like to tell us?fe....ur 7 Any statements that you would like to make? 8 Anything you think we should know about the 9 incident in general? Just wanted to give you 10 an opportunity if there's anything that you 11 think we should know that we haven't discussed. 12 EMPLOYEE I can't think of anything 13 else. But I mean, as it comes along, I'll pass 14 it on to the IG. Anything I get or any // ‘,/ 15 information. 16 MR. Thank you. -- -i \\> 17 Okay. 18 ItIMIIIIIII. 22 1 23 24 25 SDNY_00008030 EFTA_00001154 EFTA00135503 136 CERTIFICATE I hereby certify that the foregoing pages represent an accurate transcript of the electronic sound recording of the proceedings before the Department of Justice, Office of th Inspector General in the matter of: Interview of , Transcriber SDNY_00008031 EFTA_00001155 EFTA00135504 A Appreciate - 91:14, 94:3 Brought - 8:7, 8:10, Carry - 93:25 135:2 Attorney's - 15:24 8:17, 18:2, 50:6 Case - 11:2, 47:8, Ability - 71:23, Appropriate - 11:15 August - 3:1, 55:5, Building - 105:10, 48:6, 113:17 80:25, 81:2 , 15:10, 76:4 90:17, 95:16 105:11 Celled - 132:20 Able - 15:13, 17:19, Appropriately - 106 Authority - 33:8, Built - 105:11 Cellmates - 15:17, 108:10 :4 81:2 Bullock - 114:1, 74:6 Above - 72:14 Approval - 47:4, Authorizes - 30:19 114:2, 114:5 Cellphone - 51:1 Accordingly - 34:18 72:6 Automatically - 63: Bunch - 17:18, Cells - 27:10, 27:11 Account - 111:23, Arbitrarily - 74:7 9 92:18 Center - 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49:13, Good - 46:16, Home - 118:15 Facility - 7:19, 75:2, Enemies - 132:12 73:10 61:10, 74:4, 105:7, Honest - 6:11 76:21, 80:8, 105:3, Enemy - 132:18 Form - 3:23, 4:2, 125:8 Hospital - 25:25, 108:3 Ensure - 114:10 11:10, 30:1, 30:6 Grab - 134:11 128:23 Factors - 10:21, Enters - 11:6 Formal - 8:6 - 90:18, Hour - 34:9, 100:24, 73:14 Entitled - 113:10, Forms - 37:12, 90:19, 91:1, 91:2 101:1, 101:14, 104:7 Failure - 6:11 113:13 37:15, 37:18 Grill - 122:18, Hours - 26:6, 26:24, Falls - 23:11, 69:8 Epstein's - 19:23, Forward - 6:9, 10:5, 122:23 99:25, 100:4, 101:9, Far - 10:1, 20:25, 73:22, 81:3, 81:11, 29:22, 128:3 Group - 15:23, 101:10, 101:17, 23:1, 23:19, 28:13, 115:4, 1162, 127:19 Found - 8:15, 38:17 101:20, 101:22, 49:14, 66:19, Erratic - 44:19 79:21, 132:5 Guess - 19:12, 101:25, 102:2, 107:13, 130:25 Escorted - 94:1 Four - 27:10, 32:22, 48:2, 122:13, 102:10, 104:3 Fault - 117:20 Estimate - 71:9 32:24, 33:1, 33:3, 122:19, 132:4 House - 59:1, FBI - 3:13 Eval - 43:12, 43:16, 33:4, 100:16, Guidance - 102:14 85:20, 119:21, Federal - 3:15, 43:19, 45:1 100:20, 100:22 - 89:10 119:24 104:2 Evaluate - 9:10, Fraud - 10:24, Guys - 18:5, 63:15, Housed - 15:11, Feed - 108:10, 10:14, 17:16, 25:6, 10:25 63:17, 91:17, 103:11 16:1, 17:5, 51:5, 108:12, 108:14 28:12 Frequent - 19:19, 69:3, 69:11, 74:13 Feel - 46:14, 73:7, Evaluated - 27:23, 42:9 Housekeeping - 12 73:9 45:13 Frequently - 77:6 9:3 Feeling - 73:18, Hadn't - 115:16 Evaluates - 27:22, Friday - 75:4, 76:7, How's - 125:9 119:6 Hand - 4:17 29:7 76:10, 77:18, 88:23, Hurt - 44:16 Felt - 59:8 Handle - 17:12, Evaluating - 12:2, 89:24, 104:1, 104:2, FEMALE - 18:3, 28:20, 36:21 32:18, 48:12 123:16 18:5 Handler - 94:25, Evaluation - 15:15, Front - 102:14 Fight - 52:16 95:3, 97:4 I'd - 92:4 19:4, 45:17, 46:16 Full - 27:11, 91:17, Figure - 17:4 Handles - 28:18, Ideations - 25:19, Evening - 41:21, 108:21 Figured - 61:10 99:21 48:19 81:16, 89:17, 98:13 Fully - 4:11 Figuring - 60:17 Hang - 10:15 Identifying - 107:6 Everybody - 38:19, Functions - 93:4, Files - 60:2 Hanging - 121:17, IG - 129:23, 135:14 69:15, 71:7 93:23, 95:5 Fill - 36:11, 81:2, 121:24,122:9 I'll - 3:7, 4:15, Everybody's - 11:1 Fund - 95:14 91:24, 97:20, 100:7, Hangs - 26:19, 135:13 4 Funded - 105:8 101:7 26:21 Immediate - 54:3 Everyone - 3:7, Further - 9:10, Filled - 37:12, 133:9 Hard - 15:8 Immediately - 110:2 51:14, 92:23, 93:1, 12:12, 25:5 Financial - 102:22 Harm - 34:15 0, 116:8 94:4, 94:11, 96:18, Furtherance - 3:4 Find - 7:11, 8:11, Harry - 99:5 Implementing - 30: 126:23 15:5, 23:2, 118:12, Hasn't - 121:4 25 Everything - 28:20, G 119:1, 119:21 Haven't - 44:15, Incidents - 52:12 70:18, 118:8, 125:7, Fine - 32:6, 56:14, Gang - 1021, 15:9, 135:11 Inconclusive - 132: SONY 00008034 EFTA_0000 1 1 58 EFTA00135507 8 Investigative - 5:19, 57:1, 57:18, 63:20, Low - 92:3 16:3 Individual's - 39:25, 49:19, 51:3, 51:13, 64:5 Luxury - 100:6 Memo - 90:16, 91:4, 43:6 107:21 Leaving - 76:9, 91:6 Inevitably - 127:13 Involvement - 47:1 77:3, 77:7, 77:21, M Memorandum - 89: Influence - 4:10 8 78:6, 78:11, 86:8, 9, 89:12, 119:5, Machine - 56:7 Informed - 69:12, Irate - 119:22 87:15 120:22, 120:23 Major - 24:9 106:8 Issue - 16:4, 23:22, Left - 81:15, 89:16, Memory - 108:20 Majority - 93:7, 93:9 Infraction - 41:7, 63:2, 92:8 112:10, 118:12, Mental - 21:12, Making - 63:16, 41:10 Issues - 9:15, 118:13, 119:10, 22:4, 23:21, 24:3, 69:14, 76:3, 91:12, Infractions - 50:19 10:23, 10:25, 20:14, 120:7, 124:7 24:4, 24:5, 25:8, 125:4, 125:12 Inhumane - 122:16 21:5, 22:5, 23:8, Length - 114:18 29:13, 44:13, 46:14, Male - 15:13 Initial -44:3, 53:22, 23:11, 23:12, 23:25, Let's - 6:14, 16:5, 47:16, 47:22 Manager - 107:25, 113:5, 113:6, 113:7, 24:3, 24:24, 25:1, 34:14, 41:6, 42:24, Mentally - 44:13 113:19, 113:24 115:11, 132:5, 25:2, 46:14, 50:20, 52:15, 56:21, 60:9, Messages - 126:14 Managers - 51:12 133:21 56:19, 76:8, 106:4 71:6, 77:22, 89:1, Messed - 117:19 Mandated - 96:23, Initially - 7:9, 10:3, I've - 6:2, 100:14 92:10, 103:25, Michael - 94:24, 96:25, 97:3, 97:11, 11:23, 15:5, 16:24, 111:15, 115:23, 99:7, 99:13 99:18, 104:1 17:3, 43:25, 53:24, J 125:2 Midnight - 124:1 Mandation - 96:16, 53:25, 94:8, 129:15 Level - 44:5 Might've - 9:21, - 79:13, 79:15, 96:20 Initiate - 54:2 Levels - 91:18 10:24, 48:23, 66:5, 117:1, 117:2, 117:9, Many - 70:24, 74:2, Initiated - 128:22 Lieutenants - 38:19 73:11, 84:10, 98:9, 117:24, 120:19, 101:14,102:9, Initiates - 49:23 , 38:22, 39:22, 70:6, 123:21 120:21, 124:4 115:4, 115:7, 115:12 Inmates - 9:12, 70:9, 89:22 - 31:7, 31:9, Jeffrey - 6:20, Marshalls - 77:12 15:16, 17:10, 17:12, Limit - 99:24, 33:5, 33:6, 46:19, 47:14, 127:18 Material - 94:25, 19:2, 19:22, 22:3, 101:13, 102:4, 102:8 50:2, 53:21, 58:21, - 69:18, 95:2, 97:4 24:11, 34:10, 43:22, Line - 53:5, 84:12, 59:7, 60:9 126:8 MCC - 17:7, 22:4, 50:19, 51:5, 60:24, 114:12, 117:21 Mindful - 69:14 Job - 93:3, 103:7 25:22, 35:24, 39:15, 76:25, 85:7, 95:7, Lines - 45:15, Minimum - 71:20, Joiner - 99:5 47:19, 74:23, 75:23, 111:18, 120:17, 56:16, 106:1 100:10 Joining - 18:15 75:24, 76:9, 77:4, 132:24 List - 38:7, 41:17, Missing - 130:13, Judgement - 59:12 77:6, 78:11, 91:15 Inmate's - 15:22, 50:17, 55:12, 72:5, 130:16 Judgment - 46:17, Means - 44:25, 34:14, 77:9 72:6, 72:23, 77:15, Mission - 28:13, 59:11, 59:14, 62:14 50:23 Input - 30:23, 45:23, 96:11, 96:17, 96:20, 28:14 July - 53:18, 54:7, Meant - 106:24 45:25, 58:7 97:11 Mistake - 123:13 63:18 Measures - 79:2, Inspector - 3:11 Listened - 113:19 Mix - 122:24 Jump - 124:21 80:4, 121:16, Installed - 105:8 Listening - 114:6, Monday - 3:1, 7:11, Justice - 3:23, 6:7 121:23, 123:1, Installing - 105:9 114:8 8:11, 8:12, 8:18, 128:22 Institutions - 12:25, Listing - 127:1 10:2, 21:2, 22:16, K Medical - 7:14, 13:1 Locate - 131:8 54:22, 55:1, 120:13 22:5, 22:7, 22:23, Instructed - 81:5, Kevin - 61:15 Locations - 107:8 Money - 102:25 23:6, 23:11, 24:2, 81:22, 87:16 Key - 122:14 Log - 37:6, 37:8, Monitor - 113:18 24:14, 29:12, 32:9, Instructions - 14:17 Keyed - 87:10 129:17, 130:5, Monitored - 26:24, 32:10, 37:20, 46:2, , 15:2 Keys - 122:14, 133:4, 133:7 113:16 46:6, 59:11, 60:2, Intake - 21:9, 24:22, 122:22, 122:24 Long - 5:25, 63:3, Monitoring - 114:24 116:3, 121:14 44:3, 111:20 Kick - 11:13 73:19, 75:20, Morning - 8:19, Medically - 21:21 Interactions - 124:2 Kill - 29:5, 49:10 106:15, 106:19 41:21, 42:1, 81:12, Medications - 21:25 5 Known - 9:4, 83:16 Longer - 31:20, 81:15, 89:13, 89:14, , 24:6 Internal - 5:23, 6:5, Knows - 121:25 74:23 89:22, 120:8, 120:9, Meeting - 8:19, 49:2 Look - 9:25, 35:14, 134:19 51:19, 51:25, 52:7, Interview - 3:3, 3:6, L 39:2, 50:25, 54:23, Mother - 119:17 53:10, 53:11, 53:19, 18:7, 18:9, 18:15, 75:12, 88:25, 92:4, Move - 27:11, Lamine - 3:3, 3:14, 54:6, 55:4, 55:9, 23:21, 125:22, 4:18, 4:19 97:20, 106:13, 29:22, 74:11, 74:12, 55:10, 68:18, 68:20, 125:23, 135:4 128:14 83:17, 93:13, 128:24 Lane - 123:24, 69:24, 126:18 Interviewed - 49:2, Looked - 75:15, Moved - 5:14, 123:25 Meetings - 14:16, 49:3, 49:20 Late - 121:2 123:4 65:24, 66:24, 69:22, 50:5, 50:16, 51:10, Introduction - 51:2 Looking - 8:16, 70:1, 70:13 Later - 16:16, 65:19, 53:4 Investigation - 3:4, 12:3, 130:8 Moves - 52:22 67:7 Member - 10:22, 49:2 Laundry - 95:8 Lost - 122:19 Movies - 26:12 28:25, 36:7, 118:25, Investigations - 6:6 Lot - 6:5, 28:14, Moving - 6:9, 27:17, Leading - 76:6 122:2 , 51:1 96:5, 105:10, 105:13 67:20, 128:3 Leave - 42:25, 54:8, Members - 15:10, SONY 00008035 EFTA_0000 1 159 EFTA00135508 Much - 42:25, 43:1, 45:2, 45:4, 45:24, 13:8, 13:10, 13:19, 17:20, 34:13, 34:16, Press - 129:4, 129:7 57:11, 58:7, 80:2 45:25, 58:11, 58:12, 14:2, 67:6 80:7, 111:15, 111:19, Prevent - 4:11 65:20, 66:1, 67:8 Outcome - 51:19 113:1, 113:4, Prevention - 35:3, N Observations - 53: Outdated - 105:15 113:14, 114:6, 35:12, 35:21 22 Overpowered - 122 114:9, 114:12, Previous - 103:6 Narcotics - 44:18 Observe - 27:6, :13, 122:19 114:13, 114:18, Prior - 76:2 Nathan - 3:17 52:10, 130:19 Overrule - 33:9, 115:4, 115:14, Prison - 6:6, 6:16, Nathaniel - 114:2 Observed - 86:7, 33:17, 46:2 115:17, 118:3 35:19, 43:14, 43:23, Nay - 34:4 87:15 Overtime - 96:4, Physicals - 56:5 100:4 Needed - 19:14, Observer - 30:9, 96:5, 96:6, 96:7, Pick - 34:15 Prisons - 3:15 21:6, 59:5, 62:2, 30:12 97:15, 97:17, 98:6, Picked - 118:3 Privacy - 23:12 81:22, 89:17, 90:3, Observing - 45:6 99:19, 99:23, 99:24, Picking - 73:21, Probability - 76:20 129:19, 129:23, Occur - 22:11 100:24, 101:8, 77:13 Problem - 61:4, 129:25 Occurred - 16:15, 102:17, 104:25 Pickings - 60:18 92:14, 106:14, New - 9:7, 18:17, 19:6 Overtimes - 100:22 Place - 27:15, 29:1, 108:1, 109:17, 38:9, 105:8, 105:11 Occurring - 130:14 Own - 74:7, 74:11 36:7, 36:14, 36:15, 112:16, 125:20 News - 8:4, 8:16 Odd - 130:24, 72:14, 77:23 Problems - 109:9, Night - 81:14, 131:9, 131:15 P Places - 107:1 132:20 95:15, 97:1, 124:4 Offender - 61:2 Placing - 28:22, Procedure - 42:5, Nobody - 40:5, Pack - 83:21 Offense - 6:12 28:24 106:11 121:25 Packed - 83:11, Office - 3:11, 5:19, Plan - 29:8, 29:21, Procedures - 7:15, Noel - 97:23, 83:13, 83:20, 86:8 15:24, 50:20, 54:21, 31:18, 45:13, 47:12, 33:13 117:13, 117:16, Packing - 84:15, 72:11, 128:13, 67:18, 70:1, 77:23 Proceedings - 76:8, 117:17, 118:2, 85:23 129:20 Ploy - 122:7, 122:12 76:13 119:4, 119:13, Paperwork - 36:10 Officers - 51:18, Policies - 6:15, Processed - 8:9, 119:15 Participated - 86:7 51:25, 52:6, 53:5, 10:9, 11:5, 20:17, 77:1 Normal - 7:14, 7:20, Pass - 62:21, 82:19, 83:2, 83:4, 25:12, 27:14, 99:23, Processing - 95:9 106:10 135:13 83:8, 84:16, 85:22, 111:18 Profession - 33:19 Normally - 17:11, Past - 90:23 86:5, 87:13, 93:10, Policy - 10:9, 24:11, Professionals - 29: 113:15 Patrolling - 53:6 93:18, 95:21, 97:10, 35:25, 36:1, 36:3, 19, 94:4 Northeast - 12:21 Paused - 18:8 107:11 42:4, 62:10, 62:13, Profile - 7:22, 9:8, Note - 6:10 Pausing - 18:7, Offices - 12:16, 64:12, 64:13, 122:1, 17:8, 17:12, 18:1, Noted - 114:21 125:22 69:13, 74:10, 89:15 122:5 19:2, 19:21, 47:9, Notes - 36:25 Peculiar - 130:14 Officially - 8:13, Poor - 105:17 50:21 Notice - 8:6, 12:12, Peculiarities - 130: 13:19 Populate - 10:18, Program - 28:4, 77:6 23 Often - 19:10, 24:25 30:15, 30:25, 31:3, Notification - 21:12, Pending - 51:1 19:20, 19:22, 77:5, Position - 5:24, 47:17, 47:23 27:16, 37:20, 39:25, People - 11:10, 95:24 32:3, 121:24, 123:5 Promoted - 5:17, 40:3, 52:21, 77:2, 23:7, 27:16, 37:4, OIG - 3:4, 3:23 Positions - 93:8, 5:20, 93:10 82:22, 107:10, 43:22, 68:25, 85:16, Old - 73:3 93:11, 101:7 Pronounced - 128: 110:3, 110:7 92:11, 92:18, 94:19, Older - 61:8 Possibilities - 127: 23 Notifications - 52:1 100:9, 100:16, Ones - 37:20, 2 Property - 43:6, 2, 52:23, 52:24, 101:4, 102:16, 61:21, 83:5, 94:2, Possibles - 72:24 84:10, 84:17, 86:2 54:16, 110:14 112:21, 119:23 105:22 Post - 96:23, 98:21, Protocol - 48:13, Notifies - 107:11 People's - 102:22 One's - 132:16 100:7, 100:8 70:3, 71:17 Notify - 14:8, 19:14, Percentage - 92:1 Opened - 121:15 Posts - 91:23, 97:20 Protocols - 48:25, 40:24, 64:6, 64:15, - 61:1, 90:8, Operating - 107:16 Potential - 44:16 54:14, 70:23 66:3, 67:12, 68:7, 91:4 Operation - 42:5 Precautions - 42:23 Provide - 3:25 81:22, 82:10, 83:17, Perform - 44:1, Operations - 79:16, Present - 3:6, 5:23, Psyche - 30:3, 88:4, 107:24, 116:7, 93:3, 93:22, 122:25 88:18, 88:19, 133:23 51:25, 55:6 43:12, 43:16, 44:8, 116:14 Performing - 80:4 Options - 73:25, Preservation - 134: 44:14, 45:1, 45:3, Notifying - 66:17, Period - 108:20 74:4 6 45:16, 45:19, 58:10, 68:1 Periodically - 106:2 Oral - 110:6 1 Preserve - 129:22, 58:12, 58:18, 65:20 Orally - 46:11, 129:24, 130:2, 134:5 Psychological - 22: O Person - 11:15, 46:12 Preserved - 127:10, 24, 23:7, 23:19, 39:12, 40:23, 122:8 Objections - 72:23 Order - 112:6 130:1 43:12, 43:19, 45:24, Person's - 40:4 Objects - 130:13 Orders - 87:16 Preserving - 119:12 55:19, 66:1 - 61:24 Obs - 45:19, 58:19 Originally - 60:21, , 126:13, 127:8, Psychologically - 4 - 61:15, Observation - 30:3, 75:16 129:14 3:24 61:25, 62:1 44:8, 44:15, 44:21, - 13:7, Presidents - 17:22 Psychologist - 22:1 Phone - 13:12, SONY 00008036 EFTA_0000 1 1 60 EFTA00135509 4, 22:16, 22:18, 87:5 35:7, 103:20 S 74:14 25:9, 25:13, 25:17, Recipe - 122:15 Requirements - 44: Service - 21:23 28:4, 28:6, 28:18, Recognition - 112:6 25 Safe - 100:10 Services - 97:22 31:6, 31:17, 31:25, Recorded - 113:16, Resolved - 41:11 Safety - 25:2, 63:2, Set - 100:13, 33:10, 45:9, 47:19, 114:10, 114:11 Respect - 55:15 123:2 111:23, 112:3, 112:6, 59:9, 99:11 Recording - 105:18, Respond - 34:17 Samantha - 99:9 112:15, 112:24, Psychologists - 23: 105:19, 105:24, Responded - 121:2 Sams - 51:4 113:18, 115:2 20, 28:10, 29:16, 106:5, 107:24, 5 Sanctioned - 50:24 Several - 11:10, 32:23, 32:25, 46:17, 108:1, 108:13, Responding - 121:2 Saturday - 111:1, 95:5 94:4 108:15, 108:21 1, 122:25 120:25, 121:2 Sex - 61:2 Psychologist's - 59 Recordings - 105:2 Response - 27:16 Saving - 79:1, 80:4, Shall - 5:3, 5:5 :22 3, 108:17, 109:5 Responsibilities - 6 121:16, 121:22, She'll - 124:13 Psychology's - 58: Referenced - 126:1 4:12, 85:17 123:1, 128:22 She's - 31:23, 3 4 Responsibility - 64: Saw - 8:3, 115:12, 31:24, 31:25, 33:17, Push - 82:10 Referral - 36:19 13, 69:2, 84:24, 116:23, 118:6, 33:18, 98:2, 98:17, Puts - 38:5 Refresher - 93:12, 95:20, 95:25, 99:14 125:2, 125:4 120:13, 124:11, Putting - 13:16, 94:15 Responsible - 28:2 Scene - 79:9 130:7 45:4, 61:6, 114:24 Region - 12:18, 2, 31:10, 31:23, Scott - 65:6, 79:5, Shift - 8:9, 69:13, 12:22, 52:13, 52:14, 32:11, 37:3, 53:5, 79:6 98:7, 98:12, 99:20, Q 65:11, 65:14 85:23 Screen - 22:15, 100:25, 101:1, Regular - 28:17, Result - 24:17 22:19, 22:23, 109:6, 101:8, 107:12, Qualify - 93:5, 109:9 45:6, 98:6, 98:10, Results - 22:21 133:24, 133:25 94:16 Screened - 22:4, 98:12 Resuming - 18:9, Ship - 84:12 Quality - 105:17, 22:7 Regulations - 111:1 125:23 Shirley - 65:6 107:1 Screening - 7:14, 7 Reviewed - 3:22, Shop - 95:7, 107:24 Quarterly - 35:21, 21:9, 24:13, 24:15, Release - 11:9, 11:14, 48:2, 49:19, Should've - 7:24, 36:2, 98:21 24:22, 25:8, 44:4, 46:25, 50:25 133:25 55:3, 82:21, 83:2, Quick - 115:23, 111:20 Released - 37:17, Reviewing - 107:18 83:16 130:4 Screenings - 22:21, 37:25, 38:13, 40:11, Reyes' - 73:15, Show - 87:8 Quote - 29:15, 39:1, 22:24, 24:18 42:3, 45:14, 53:14, 81:3, 83:19, 84:15, Showed - 75:16 108:18, 122:5 Screens - 22:8 53:16, 63:8, 75:1, 84:17, 85:24, 86:7, Shower - 125:6 75:3, 75:6, 76:20 86:22, 87:15 Second - 25:23, Showing - 75:20, R 42:19, 58:14, 59:25, Releasing - 73:12 - 88:12, 88:13, 86:25, 133:7 Raise - 4:16 Reliability - 105:6 88:14 73:17 Sick - 120:11, Range - 122:15, Reliable - 105:17 Road - 91:16 Secretary - 123:10, 120:12 122:18 Relieved - 124:4 Role - 6:5, 12:6, 123:22 Sign - 11:10, 11:13, Ranks - 5:15 Reminding - 71:6 28:3 Secure - 122:20 49:25, 102:16 - 3:12, 17:23, Remove - 32:14, Room - 18:16, Security - 56:13 Signature - 134:13, 115:23, 125:18 33:1, 33:2, 92:15 20:13, 20:15, 78:4, See - 9:14, 10:14, 134:14, 134:15 Ray - 13:7, 13:8, Removed - 37:13, 84:10, 86:2, 108:2, 26:11, 39:4, 107:5, Signed - 3:23, 97:6 67:6 37:16, 38:3, 38:6, 108:4, 108:5, 108:3, 108:10, Signs - 35:12, Re - 94:16, 108:21 40:1, 42:16, 43:4, 108:10, 109:3, 108:14, 109:3, 35:14, 133:24 Ready - 9:11, 10:14, 43:6, 65:19, 67:8, 112:17, 126:24 119:4, 125:2 Simple - 134:4 28:2, 37:16, 45:13, 67:14 Roommate - 15:6, Seeing - 120:6 Siock - 17:19 59:10, 59:13, 59:18, Removing - 31:11, 67:23, 68:5, 73:22 Sees - 122:2 SIS - 108:2, 109:4, 59:19 32:11 Roommates - 72:4 Selecting - 30:24 109:15, 128:7, Realize - 8:11 Rep - 119:7 Roster - 88:25 Sending - 119:23 129:20 Realized - 82:25 Report - 41:8, Rounds - 52:9, Sends - 41:17 Sit - 27:5 Reason - 4:11 49:18, 49:20, 52:11, 69:14, 71:14, 71:19, Sent - 17:21, 38:18, Sitting - 26:25, Reasoning - 33:23 127:13, 127:18, 88:20, 125:4, 39:8, 42:6, 61:11, 49:11 Reasons - 7:3 127:20, 128:10, 125:12, 128:19, 61:12, 62:4, 72:7, Situation - 19:12, Rebekah - 18:17, 132:1, 132:3 129:17 72:10, 89:9, 119:15, 19:23, 62:23, 63:7, 18:23 Reports - 8:16, Routed - 11:9 119:20, 126:15, 116:3, 117:8, 122:3 Recap - 87:11 37:12, 37:15, 59:22, Routine - 81:11 127:1, 128:10 Situations - 15:21, Receipts - 87:5 86:22 Row - 102:9, 103:8 Sentry - 75:12, 87:9 102:22, 111:21 Receive - 94:7 Request - 3:25 Rules - 99:22 Separate - 16:5, Skipper - 65:6, Received - 62:6, Requesting - 56:8 Run - 110:19 32:3 79:5, 79:6 131:25 Requests - 130:1 Runs - 28:6, 30:22 Separated - 15:25, Sleep - 56:7 Receiving - 57:4, Require - 100:8 62:24, 73:5, 74:15 Sleeping - 119:24, 76:23, 84:22, 85:5, Required - 16:13, Separation - 9:15, 120:4 10:23, 15:23, 24:24, SONY 00008037 EFTA_0000 1 1 6 1 EFTA00135510 Slim - 60:18 124:14, 125:15, Temporarily - 78:9 Total - 15:22 Updates - 55:12, Small - 125:3 125:19 Term - 73:19, 75:20 Trace - 114:12 57:5, 57:11 Smock - 26:3, 26:7, Stood - 113:19 Terminology - 86:1 Tracing - 114:17 Used - 49:13 45:5 Stop - 45:10 7, 93:19, 128:16 Track - 47:20, 87:9, Using - 107:17 Solemnly - 4:20, Stored - 84:18 Terms - 10:9, 11:5, 117:22 4:22 Straight - 41:14 91:18, 91:25, 99:23, Train - 93:13 V Somebody's - 7:22, Stranger - 17:8 99:25, 114:23, Trained - 27:9, Versus - 43:12 38:3, 74:14, 77:15, Street - 93:8 129:14 29:18, 30:15, 34:13, Vests - 26:13 122:9 Stringent - 44:22 Text - 126:14 35:18, 35:19, 93:18 Vetted - 78:3 Someone's - 29:24, Stuck - 130:24 Thanks - 18:24, Training - 30:16, Via - 63:22, 64:11, 45:23 Studies - 28:15 91:12 30:24, 34:24, 35:3, 87:16 Sound - 62:14, Stuff's - 107:23 These - 17:12, 51:9, 35:4, 35:6, 35:10, View - 34:23 122:16 Submitted - 120:23 53:4, 70:22, 85:15, 35:22, 36:2, 93:6, Vigilant - 71:6, Southern - 18:17 Substances - 4:10 97:20, 101:7 93:12, 94:7, 94:12, 71:16 Sp - 13:7, 17:20, Suggested - 91:3 They'd - 28:1, 85:13 94:15 Vision - 107:2 31:8, 51:5, 61:16, Suggestions - 72:1 They'll - 27:23, Transcription - 3:5, Visit - 125:3 65:6, 90:18, 97:24, 9 30:6, 36:13, 46:12, 18:21 Visits - 20:7, 55:24, 99:10, 109:20, 114:2 Suicidal - 25:9, 83:25 Transferred - 75:5 81:14 Space - 42:25, 43:1 25:11, 25:14, 25:18, They've - 50:23, Traumatic - 118:23 Visual - 109:8 Specialized - 94:14 29:1, 48:16, 48:18, 62:12, 129:23 Treated - 45:11 VOICE - 18:3, 18:5, Specific - 7:5, 48:19, 58:25, 59:8, Thomas - 94:24, Treatment - 37:4 112:6 14:17, 15:2, 16:17, 59:12, 59:19 99:13, 117:18, Trips - 94:1 Voluntarily - 96:9 19:16, 34:24, 35:17, Sunday - 119:16 118:12, 118:17, Trust - 46:17, 59:11, Voluntary - 3:2, 37:12, 71:18, 94:19, Supervises - 12:25 118:20, 119:13, 59:13, 95:14 3:25, 100:1, 104:16 132:13 Supervisor - 13:4, 121:14, 121:20 Truth - 5:3, 5:4, 5:5, Volunteer - 96:11, Specifics - 54:12, 13:5, 33:18, 67:18, Thomas' - 119:17 5:6 97:14, 97:16 103:3 88:16, 103:7 Thompson - 95:19 Truthfully - 4:13 Volunteering - 101: Spell - 3:7, 18:21 Supervisors - 33:4, Threats - 9:15 Tuesday - 120:13 5 Spelling - 3:15 38:21, 39:21 Three - 32:21, Turn - 100:7, 104:18 Spent - 20:7 Support - 118:9, 60:25, 61:11, 61:18, Turns - 96:19 W Spot - 81:3 119:16 61:19, 72:1, 72:24, Twice - 41:21, 71:10 Staffed - 92:11 Supposed - 39:23, 127:2 Two - 32:20, WAB - 84:2 Staffing - 89:2, 40:6, 40:7, 40:8, Thursday - 53:19, 103:13, 103:16, Wait - 16:20, 60:20, 91:15, 91:18, 92:1, 52:9, 64:14, 87:21, 55:4, 110:2 103:21, 103:22, 122:6, 122:17, 92:5, 100:15 131:21, 133:19 Thursdays - 50:12 103:23, 104:8, 122:24 Standard - 15:16, Sustain - 132:7 Tier - 133:7 108:19, 108:20, Wants - 102:11 42:5 Swear - 4:15, 4:20, Timeframe - 22:10, 122:23 Wardens - 14:15, Start - 6:16, 14:23, 4:22 63:12 51:12, 69:6 60:9, 80:6, 133:20 Synopsis - 128:14 Timeline - 80:21, U Warehouse - 95:4, Started - 5:11, 5:16, System - 87:3, 108:19 95:5, 95:9, 95:12 Unapproved - 131: 80:15, 80:19, 81:10, 105:15, 114:24 Times - 16:9, 16:14, Warnings - 3:24 22 119:11, 121:16 Systems - 108:22 19:16, 68:22, 70:24, Warranted - 46:6 Understaffed - 91:1 Starting - 91:21 71:5, 82:9, 87:18, - 98:25 9, 92:22 Starts - 108:21 T 87:19, 128:1 , 99:1 Union - 118:20, State - 92:24 Tired - 120:4 Wasn't - 16:18, Taking - 10:22, 119:7 Statement - 127:25, Title - 3:8, 93:3 20:2, 24:7, 58:24, 20:12, 22:2, 47:10, United - 18:16 128:18 -97:23 59:19, 70:20, 74:2, 77:14 Units - 90:24, 93:6 Statements - 4:16, Today - 3:1, 4:13, 79:10, 87:20, 97:2, Tape - 18:8 Unless - 62:22, 4:24, 5:1, 25:19, 6:11, 6:19, 89:20, 109:13, 115:2, Target - 132:13 124:17 49:21, 135:7 119:17, 120:2, 119:6, 131:21 Targeted - 132:25 Unmonitored - 111: Stating - 30:2, 38:5, 120:11, 120:12, Watched - 26:6 Tartaglione - 15:12, 22 42:3 121:8, 127:21 Watching - 45:18, 48:21, 49:6, 49:11, Unofficial - 102:13, Status - 9:10, Tonight - 124:13 45:21 60:19, 60:20, 60:21 103:12 45:25, 50:22, 53:12, Took - 49:21, 72:14, Weapons - 93:5 Team - 22:8, 118:10 Unreliable - 106:16, 55:12, 55:19, 92:13 73:14, 75:11, 84:6, We'd - 19:13, 77:24 Telephone - 63:23, 106:18 Stay - 14:9, 104:20, 121:15 Week - 50:5, 50:10, 111:23, 112:3, Unreported - 111:18 122:22 To - 94:17 51:20, 54:7, 54:18, 112:15 Unresponsive - 128 Stayed - 121:2 - 123:7, 57:1, 71:19, 76:7, Telling - 5:10, 6:25, :21 Staying - 15:5 123:8, 123:10, 99:25, 100:17, 66:22, 70:25, 79:18 Updated - 20:3, Step - 18:5, 44:11, 123:21, 123:23 100:20, 100:22, Tells - 59:10 58:2 SONY 00008038 EFTA_0000 1 1 62 EFTA00135511 101:14, 104:3, Wrote - 120:23 24 - 26:6, 26:24, 108:19, 108:20 34:9, 100:4, 101:25, Weekend - 7:10, Y 102:2 7:18, 10:3, 21:16, 26 - 73:3 Yay - 34:4 21:20, 22:13, 22:18, 26th - 54:8 Year - 35:2, 73:3, 119:19 29th - 54:18, 54:19, 93:5, 93:13, 94:16 Weeks - 13:23, 54:24, 54:25, 55:2 MI - 18:17 13:25, 19:6 You've - 6:5, 6:6, Weight - 122:10 3 15:9, 118:22, We'll - 36:15, 36:16, 126:15, 126:16 30 - 92:11, 113:11, 44:14, 46:13, 47:11, 113:13, 133:15, 55:10, 119:9, 130:2 0 134:11 Weren't - 7:6, 8:1, 30th - 54:19, 60:4 74:4, 93:7, 111:9 00:00:14 - 18:14 37 - 9:25 We've - 17:17, 00:02:06 - 20:10 17:18, 27:23, 92:11, 00:03:19 - 21:18 5 105:12, 122:19 00:04:04 - 7:16 What's - 7:19, 00:08:37 - 13:3 5:33 - 124:6 29:21, 50:22, 51:16, 00:12:26 - 32:22 583 - 127:21 55:12, 55:22, 58:2, 00:12:41 - 17:23 65:17, 67:5, 69:16, 00:17:07 - 38:24 6 77:5, 95:11, 96:16, 00:19:21 -42:6 6:45 - 81:18, 116:4 105:18, 106:14, 00:25:35 - 49:4 6:50 - 78:22, 116:6 108:14, 130:20 00:46:26 - 74:9 Where's - 80:16, 00:57:40 - 88:21 7 80:20 00:58:59 - 90:11 White - 15:12 00:59:26 - 91:9 7:30 - 80:23, 81:13 Whole - 5:4, 5:6, 01:04:52 - 98:9 70s - 92:4 7:13, 20:7, 67:25, 01:05:01 -98:18 122:20 01:08:57 - 104:6 8 Wide - 39:7, 39:9, 01:18:13 - 115:24 80% - 92:6, 92:11 39:11 01:23:09 - 120:18 80s - 92:4 Will - 3:2, 3:6, 01:27:13 - 124:18 22:19, 36:21, 40:24, 08/10/2019 - 133:7 9 46:25, 52:6, 53:14, 77:13, 87:8, 111:22, 119:9, 127:12, 1 i 9th - 77:19, 95:16 10:55 - 18:8 127:17 10:56 - 18:15 Wiring - 105:15 10th - 95:16 Wise - 56:13 12 - 3:2, 90:17 Won't - 104:1, 122:4 12:23 - 125:21 Word - 12:9, 15:23 12:29 - 125:24 Words - 49:13 12:35 - 135:1 Worked - 6:7, 16 - 101:14, 101:17, 82:23, 121:3, 121:4, 101:22, 102:9, 104:7 124:3, 124:4 1975 - 105:11 Worker - 107:11 1st - 55:5 Workers - 85:2, 92:25, 93:1, 93:20, 2 94:7, 97:14 Workman's - 92:12 20% - 92:22 Works - 27:19, 2018 - 6:3 95:24, 96:2, 97:3, 2019 - 90:17 119:17 21 - 12:24, 13:1, Wouldn't - 71:11, 103:7 77:25, 86:24, 97:3, 226.2 - 3:23 103:7 22nd - 54:7, 63:21, Write - 91:4, 103:8 120:22, 133:20 23rd - 53:18, 63:18, Writing - 90:7, 90:9 64:7 SONY 00008039 EFTA_0000 1 1 63 EFTA00135512