From: ==. >
To: Ben Goertzel
Subject: Re: timing for meet-up in November ... Re: Visiting in November
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2014 13:41:14 +0000
do you have a cell number these days? I don't seem to have one for you?
On Nov 9, 2014, at 7:41 AM, Ben Goertzel < > wrote:
> OK, thanks! will be great to talk!
, just let me know what time Jeffrey is available --- if
> possible a couple hours is better than just one hour, as there's a lot
> to talk about.... I don't tend to be an early morning person; but
> actually any time Monday (tomorrow) works for me ;)
> -- Ben
> On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 7:38 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 9 east 71, will cooridinate
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Ben Goertzel <-> wrote:
>>>
>>> Great, let's do the 10th (tomorrow)
>>>
>>> (This afternoon doesn't work as easily, as I have a talk at MIT this
>>> morning at the BICA conference, and it would be better to be here for
>>> the afternoon of the conference as well...)
>>>
>>> What time would you like to meet tomorrow? And can you remind me the
>» address?
>>>
>» See you soon!
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Ben
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 6:29 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 10th good. or this afernoon
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Ben Goertzel < > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> How's the 10th looking now?
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually any time this upcoming week is do-able, but the 10th would be
>>>>> best if possible.... I fly back to HK next weekend...
>>>>>
>>>>> thx
>>>>> ben
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 4:04 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> maybe the 10th, i will not be back before the 8th
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 1:55 AM, Ben Goertzel < >
>>>>» wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> Sorry to be a nag, but do you know if you're available Nov 6 at this
>>>>>» point?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thx ;)
>>>>>>> ben
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 6:43 PM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com>
>>>>>» wrote:
>>>>>>» cant be sure yet
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 6:40 AM, Ben Goertzel < >
>>>>>>» wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm firming up my travel plans; does Nov 6 in NYC still look good
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>» to meet?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to it -- lots to report s discuss!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thx ;)
>>>>>>>>> ben
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 5:59 PM, jeffrey E.
>>>>>>>>> <jeevacation@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>» 6th looks good at the moment
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 3:10 AM, Ben Goertzel
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jeffrey,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It looks like I'll be at MIT Nov 7-9, and then on the US East
>>>>>>>>>» Coast
>>>>>>>>>>> (details to be figured out) from Nov 10-17 .... Will sometime
>>>>>>>>>» in
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> interval Nov 10-17 work for us to meet up?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If not I could possibly do Nov 5 or 6 or so, before the BICA
>>>>>>>>>>> conference
>>>>>>>>>>> at MIT ... but I'd want to know soon so I can buy plane tickets
>>>>>>>>>>> HK-US
>>>>>>>>>>> accordingly...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Or if this is too far in advance for you to plan a meeting, I
>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>> come and then hope to schedule something with you at the last
>>>>>>>>>>> minute
>>>>>>>>>>> ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There is loads of interesting stuff to discuss!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot,
>>>>>>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 11:09 PM, Ben Goertzel
>>>>>>>>>» <
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>» Great!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you want to arrange the particular date now, or should I
>>>>>>>>>>» ping
>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>» about it in a couple weeks?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I will probably _atoms plane tickets for the trip around
>>>>>>>>>>>> Oct
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and it would be good to incorporate knowledge of the date of
>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>> meeting to
>>>>>>>>>>>> trip planning...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 7:47 PM, jeffrey E.
>>>>>>>>>>>> <jeevacation8gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes look forward to it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 7:38 AM, Ben Goertzel
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jeffrey,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope you've been well !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be in the save November for the BICA conference
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MIT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Nov 7-9; I guess Joscha will attend as well)... and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the US
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a little bit after that...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>» I wonder if we could meet up at some point during my US
>>>>>>>>>>>>» visit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either in Boston if you'll be there around that time, or in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> York, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere else that you prefer...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be good to show you some of the stuff we've been up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenCog, if you can spare a couple hours. Lots going on ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (due to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> efforts of the team in Hong Kong, plus some of the guys in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ethiopia...) ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our NLP/reasoning work is advancing quite a bit, as well as
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video game
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world and robotics stuff...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As an aside, our AI hedge fund project looks like it's going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward and we'll probably start trading early next year.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>>» struggling with HK equity data, but shifting to US equities
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> global
>>>>>>>>>>>>» futures (in the last couple months) has given us much nicer
>>>>>>>>>>>>» historical
>>>>>>>>>>>>» prediction accuracies (largely due to the lower transaction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> costs
>>>>>>>>>>>>» on these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> markets). Next step is to run backtests on these other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> markets,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try it all on data from 2012-2014, which we have held out as
>>>>>>>>>>>>» "virgin data"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for last-ditch testing... and then if that works, trade real
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money.... I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have been splitting my time between OpenCog and the trading
>>>>>>>>>>>>» project and am
>>>>>>>>>>>>» sick to death of quantitative finance and eager to shift
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>» time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>» openCog; but I would rather ramp down my time on the finance
>>>>>>>>>>>>» project on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>» successful note (i.e. after getting a tradable system
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working),
>>>>>>>>>>>>» and at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>» moment it seems to be going in that direction...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben Goertzel, PhD
>>>>>>>>>>>>» http://goertzel.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "In an insane world, the sane man must appear to be insane".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>» Capt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>» James T. Kirk
>>>>>>>>>>>>»
>>>>>>>>>>>>» "Emancipate yourself from mental slavery / None but
>>>>>>>>>>>>» ourselves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free our minds" -- Robert Nesta Marley
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> please note
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The information contained in this communication is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may
>>>>>>>>>>>>> constitute inside information, and is intended only for
>>>>>>>>>>>» the use of the addressee. It is the property of
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> JEE
>>>>>>>>>>>» Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben Goertzel, PhD
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://goertzel.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "In an insane world, the sane man must appear to be insane".
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Capt.
>>>>>>>>>>>> James T. Kirk
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Emancipate yourself from mental slavery / None but ourselves
>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>>>>>» our minds" Robert Nesta Marley
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Ben Goertzel, PhD
>>>>>>>>>>> http://goertzel.org
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the
>>>>>>>>>» unreasonable
>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
>>>>>>>>>» progress
>>>>>>>>>>> depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> please note
>>>>>>>>>> The information contained in this communication is
>>>>>>>>>> confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may
>>>>>>>>>> constitute inside information, and is intended only for
>>>>>>>>» the use of the addressee. It is the property of
>>>>>>>>>> JEE
>>>>>>>>>> Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Ben Goertzel, PhD
>>>>>>>» http://goertzel.org
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable
>>>>>>>» one
>>>>>>>>> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
>>>>>>>» progress
>>>>>>>>> depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> please note
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Ben Goertzel, PhD
>>>>>>> http://goertzel.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable
>>>>>» one
>>>>>>> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
>>>>>>> progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> please note
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>>>>>> constitute inside information, and is intended only for
>>>>» the use of the addressee. It is the property of
>>>>>> JEE
>>>>>> Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ben Goertzel, PhD
>>>>> http://goertzel.org
>>>>>
>>>>> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one
>>>>> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
>>>>> progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ben Goertzel, PhD
>» http://goertzel.org
>>>
>>> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one
>>> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
>» progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one
> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
> progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw
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