From: ==. >
To: Ben Goertzel
Subject: Re: timing for meet-up in November ... Re: Visiting in November
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2014 14:28:41 +0000
excellent!! thank you! and my office number remains the same (just in case!)
See you tomorrow at 1pm
On Nov 9, 2014, at 8:59 AM, Ben Goertzel C > wrote:
> Great -- 1PM Monday will work fine, thanks...
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> My cell it these da s is (a Hong Kong number). My old
> US number still works, but it's now my Google Voice
> number and usually goes through to voicemail
> ;)
> ben
> On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 8:39 AM, wrote:
>> Morning Ben...Could you come see Jeffrey tomorrow at 1pm?
>>
» 9 East 71st Street between 5th and Madison
>>
>> Let me know!
>>
>> On Nov 9, 2014, at 7:41 AM, Ben Goertzel <-> wrote:
>>
>>> OK, thanks! will be great to talk! ...
>>>
>>> , just let me know what time Jeffrey is available --- if
>>> possible a couple hours is better than just one hour, as there's a lot
>>> to talk about.... I don't tend to be an early morning person; but
>>> actually any time Monday (tomorrow) works for me ;)
>>>
>>> -- Ben
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 7:38 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 9 east 71, will cooridinate
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Ben Goertzel < > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Great, let's do the 10th (tomorrow)
>>>>>
>>>>> (This afternoon doesn't work as easily, as I have a talk at MIT this
>>>>> morning at the BICA conference, and it would be better to be here for
>>>>> the afternoon of the conference as well...)
>>>>>
>>>>> What time would you like to meet tomorrow? And can you remind me the
>>>» address?
>>>>>
>>>>> See you soon!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Ben
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 6:29 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 10th good. or this afernoon
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Ben Goertzel > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How's the 10th looking now?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually any time this upcoming week is do-able, but the 10th would be
>>>>>>> best if possible.... I fly back to HK next weekend...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thx
>>>>>>> ben
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 4:04 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> maybe the 10th, i will not be back before the 8th
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 1:55 AM, Ben Goertzel <
>>>>>>» wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry to be a nag, but do you know if you're available Nov 6 at this
>>>>>>>» point?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thx ;)
>>>>>>>>> ben
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 6:43 PM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>» cant be sure yet
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 6:40 AM, Ben Goertzel <
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm firming up my travel plans; does Nov 6 in NYC still look good
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>>>» to meet?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to it -- lots to report & discuss!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> thx ;)
>>>>>>>>>>> ben
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 5:59 PM, jeffrey E.
>>>>>>>>>» <jeevacation@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>» 6th looks good at the moment
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 3:10 AM, Ben Goertzel
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jeffrey,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>» It looks like I'll be at MIT Nov 7-9, and then on the US East
>>>>>>>>>>>» Coast
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (details to be figured out) from Nov 10-17 .... Will sometime
>>>>>>>>>>>» in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> interval Nov 10-17 work for us to meet up?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If not I could possibly do Nov 5 or 6 or so, before the BICA
>>>>>>>>>>>>> conference
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at MIT ... but I'd want to know soon so I can buy plane tickets
>>>>>>>>>>>>> HK-US
>>>>>>>>>>>>> accordingly...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or if this is too far in advance for you to plan a meeting, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> come and then hope to schedule something with you at the last
>>>>>>>>>>>>> minute
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is loads of interesting stuff to discuss!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 11:09 PM, Ben Goertzel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>» Great!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you want to arrange the particular date now, or should I
>>>>>>>>>>>>» ping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about it in a couple weeks?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will probably need to buy plane tickets for the trip around
>>>>>>>>>>>>» Oct
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it would be good to incorporate knowledge of the date of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>» meeting to
>>>>>>>>>>>>» trip planning...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 7:47 PM, jeffrey E.
>>>>>>>>>>>>» <jeevacation@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes look forward to it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 7:38 AM, Ben Goertzel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>» < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jeffrey,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope you've been well !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be in the US in early November for the BICA conference
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MIT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Nov 7-9; I guess Joscha will attend as well)... and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>» probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>» stay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>» in the US
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a little bit after that...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder if we could meet up at some point during my US
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either in Boston if you'll be there around that time, or in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> York, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere else that you prefer...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be good to show you some of the stuff we've been up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenCog, if you can spare a couple hours. Lots going on ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (due to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> efforts of the team in Hong Kong, plus some of the guys in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ethiopia...) ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our NLP/reasoning work is advancing quite a bit, as well as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video game
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world and robotics stuff...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As an aside, our AI hedge fund project looks like it's going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward and we'll probably start trading early next year.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> struggling with HK equity data, but shifting to US equities
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> global
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> futures (in the last couple months) has given us much nicer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> historical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prediction accuracies (largely due to the lower transaction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> costs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> markets). Next step is to run backtests on these other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> markets,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try it all on data from 2012-2014, which we have held out as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "virgin data"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for last-ditch testing... and then if that works, trade real
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money.... I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have been splitting my time between OpenCog and the trading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project and am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sick to death of quantitative finance and eager to shift
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenCog; but I would rather ramp down my time on the finance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successful note (i.e. after getting a tradable system
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moment it seems to be going in that direction...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben Goertzel, PhD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://goertzel.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "In an insane world, the sane man must appear to be insane".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>» Capt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James T. Kirk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>» "Emancipate yourself from mental slavery / None but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>» ourselves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>» free our minds" -- Robert Nesta Marley
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - _
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please note
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The information contained in this communication is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constitute inside information, and is intended only for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the use of the addressee. It is the property of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JEE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben Goertzel, PhD
>>>>>>>>>>>>» http://goertzel.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "In an insane world, the sane man must appear to be insane".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>» Capt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James T. Kirk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Emancipate yourself from mental slavery / None but ourselves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our minds" Robert Nesta Marley
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben Goertzel, PhD
>>>>>>>>>>>» http://goertzel.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> unreasonable
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> progress
>>>>>>>>>>>>> depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> please note
>>>>>>>>>>>> The information contained in this communication is
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>>>>>>>>>>>> confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may
>>>>>>>>>>>> constitute inside information, and is intended only for
>>>>>>>>>>» the use of the addressee. It is the property of
>>>>>>>>>>>> JEE
>>>>>>>>>>» Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this
>>>>>>>>>>>> communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited
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>>>>>>>>>>>> return e-mail or by e-mail to jeevacation@gmail.com, and
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Ben Goertzel, PhD
>>>>>>>>>» http://goertzel.org
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable
>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
>>>>>>>>>» progress
>>>>>>>>>>> depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> please note
>>>>>>>>>> The information contained in this communication is
>>>>>>>>>> confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may
>>>>>>>>>> constitute inside information, and is intended only for
>>>>>>>>>> the use of the addressee. It is the property of
>>>>>>>>>> JEE
>>>>>>>>>> Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this
>>>>>>>>>> communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited
>>>>>>>>>> and may be unlawful. If you have received this
>>>>>>>>>> communication in error, please notify us immediately by
>>>>>>>>>> return e-mail or by e-mail to jeevacation@gmail.com, and
>>>>>>>>>> destroy this communication and all copies thereof,
>>>>>>>>>> including all attachments. copyright -all rights reserved
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Ben Goertzel, PhD
>>>>>>>» http://goertzel.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable
>>>>>>>» one
>>>>>>>>> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
>>>>>>>>> progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> please note
>>>>>>>> The information contained in this communication is
>>>>>>>> confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may
>>>>>>>> constitute inside information, and is intended only for
>>>>>>» the use of the addressee. It is the property of
>>>>>>>> JEE
>>>>>>>> Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this
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>>>>>>» return e-mail or by e-mail to jeevacation@gmail.com, and
>>>>>>>> destroy this communication and all copies thereof,
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Ben Goertzel, PhD
>>>>>>> http://goertzel.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one
>>>>>>> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
>>>>>>> progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> please note
>>>>>> The information contained in this communication is
>>>>>> confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may
>>>>>> constitute inside information, and is intended only for
>>>>>> the use of the addressee. It is the property of
>>>>>> JEE
>>>>>> Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this
>>>>>> communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited
>>>>>> and may be unlawful. If you have received this
>>>>>> communication in error, please notify us immediately by
>>>>>> return e-mail or by e-mail to jeevacation@gmail.com, and
>>>>>> destroy this communication and all copies thereof,
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ben Goertzel, PhD
>>>» http://goertzel.org
>>>>>
>>>>> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one
>>>>> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
>>>>> progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> please note
>>>> The information contained in this communication is
>>>> confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may
>>>> constitute inside information, and is intended only for
>>>> the use of the addressee. It is the property of
>>>> JEE
>>>> Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this
>>>> communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited
>>>> and may be unlawful. If you have received this
>>>> communication in error, please notify us immediately by
>>» return e-mail or by e-mail to jeevacation@gmail.com, and
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>--
>>> Ben Goertzel, PhD
>» http://goertzel.org
>>>
>>> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one
>>> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
>>> progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw
> --
> Ben Goertzel, PhD
> http://goertzel.org
> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one
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> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
> progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw
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