From: "Jeffrey E." <jeevacation®gmail.com>
To: Lawrence Krauss
Subject: Re: Allegations
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2018 18:15:54 +0000
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yes, i know , but intution is not a good compass here. facts matter less than perception . attitude matters less
than rules. . women are involved and emotions will win over rational arguments. the fact that she jad SOO
many categoires is bad. all she had to write was we have some concers.
On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 8:13 PM, Lawrence Krauss wrote:
maybe.. please trust me too, at least on issues of my own happiness..
btw.. all our goals are to keep job, though I will want to retire from it within 3-5 years anyway..
On Apr 3, 2018, at 1:12 PM, jeffrey E. leevacation®gmail.com> wrote:
trust me , your happiness will be better if you have a job
On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 8:11 PM, Lawrence Krauss <1 > wrote:
they are relevant to me and my future happiness, as I think we agreed.. In any case, haven't made up mind
yet.
On Apr 3, 2018, at 1:09 PM, Jeffrey E. <jeevacation®gmail.com> wrote:
desires at home, not relevant. any longer they were the same desires that prompted a twiitter respoinse
that was predictably met by more accustaions
On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 7:20 PM, Lawrence Krauss wrote:
Thanks for the call this morning.. I emailed Erin along the lines we discussed.. Thanks for that. I still
have not decided upon Justin as an advisor, and I appreciated your thoughts on this, which as you know
I have to balance against desires at home. I do appreciate your offer of the $25K if necessary.
On Apr 3, 2018, at 9:42 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote:
ok, did you meet with the ugly woman attny ? your quesitons will be public. so make them self
serving and polite. dont tell her what she should do only ask respectfully and somewaht shocked .
after years of i am now told for the very first time that. were these ever made at the time ?
etc
On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 4:40 PM, Lawrence Krauss •q > wrote:
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Justin is not ideal, but given the current situation I believe it is necessary to have someone advising
me with more knowledge of rights and procedures. They seem to flying by the seat of their pants
here, and will need to establish what is proper... While I am sure he would like to be at the first
meeting, I don't want that, but I think he could prepare me better for that meeting. I am going to
email her with some more questions indeed.. will be peppering her with questions both before and
during and after the meeting..
More later.
On Apr 3, 2018, at 4:16 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote:
i thought we agreed justin was NOT right . it is not clear that they are not folllowing procede
it is clear that you needd to get serious and see where this is heading. . did you ask in writing
for anyting. we should attempt to have her send more dumb emails that is your only leverage.
we would like to knowyour rights. ? ask ? we would like to know the justification for their
inquirres. etc. i know there are other things going on in your life. sorry. again these are the
crown jewels. it is clear that they are out to get you. contrary to your views. the suspension
test the waters as to if you are needed at orgins at all. . All of this will become part of a
permante record so you must make some self serviing wriingns
On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 9:01 AM, Lawrence Krauss < > wrote:
Well, this came in today, and this clarifies some things.. Particulary it is clear that this office is
not really following any procedure and isn't out to deal with me in a way that respects my
rights. (no surprise to you!). Statements like "include, but not limited to"? What the fuck is
that? Also, it seems clear that from the list of `allegations' (and note they don't explain which
ones they are actually investigating), that the list is basically the buzzfeed article.. so indeed
they are not restricting themselves in at least listing just university related ones (items 4 and 5..
and re 5, what the fuck? Who the fuck cares what an employee thinks about a donor?)
Anyway, it is clear to nancy and I that we need to bring Justin in, at least as an advisor before I
have my meeting next ties.. I was going to consider bringing him in depending upon what I
heard there, but based on this, there are various jurisdictional issues, and respecting my rights
issues that I need to be guided on. (I plan to ask specific questions now during the meetings
next tues, but not give responses at the time).
So, at this point I plan to write to her to ask her for some specifics (which I don't expect her to
agree to answer till we meet, but we will see), and contact Justin to let him know I will pay his
retainer. I don't want him accompanying me to the meeting on Tues, but I want to plug him in
the loop with me, and help me know what to ask, and how to be prepared to respond....
Just FYI.. so I guess I will take up your offer of the $25K...
I am in Nashville visiting Lilli so on central time, and will not be in a position to talk
extensively tomorrow, but if you give me a good time, I can call..
And you will be amused that the Student newspaper, the state press, had an opinion piece that
basically said the University shouldn't have put me on leave and reacted so presumptuously..
so that was nice to see.:)
Lawrence
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Begin forwarded message:
From: Erin Ellison <
Subject: Allegations
Date: April 2, 2018 at 4:08:35 PM CDT
To: Lawrence Krauss <
Cc: Erin Ellison
Resent-From: <
Good morning Dr. Krauss:
The purpose of this email is to provide you with notification of the specific allegations that have been
raised against you during OEI's investigation. The allegations that are known at this time include but
are not limited to:
1. Unwelcome comments of a sexual nature
2. Gender based comments
3. Conduct of a sexual nature including, but not limited to, touching
4. Unprofessional interactions with students, employees of the Origins Project, and
attendees at various conferences
5. Failure to report after an employee expressed concern about a donor
We will discuss these allegations during your interview on April 10, 2018.
Regards,
Erin R. Ellison, J.D.
Director, Office of Equity & Inclusion
Arizona State University
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Arizona State University, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404
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