From: "Jeffrey E." <jeevacation@grnail.com>
To: Ben Goertzel
Subject: Re:
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:01:13 +0000
yes IU would like to be put in touch, yes i will re read . gino is still an unlknown
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Ben Goertzel > wrote:
Hi Jeffrey,
Good to hear from you!
BTW -- We have not yet been able to install our software on your
Virgin Islands server as requested, because the sys-admin there,
Jermaine, has not yet opened a port in the router there to let us
access the machine remotely. I wonder if he doesn't know how to do
that? (but it's a very basic thing...).... Anyhow we have emailed and
asked him to do this several times...
I like the idea of a machine that can ask questions...! Actually the
logic of questions is dual to the logic of answers, see
httplAvww.gatsby.ucl.ac.ulchistats/fullpapers/246.pdf
Making OpenCog ask questions to fill in gaps in its knowledge is one
of our current priorities, in fact....
I'm glad to hear you have decided to fund Joscha for another year. He
is really enjoying his time in Boston and getting a lot out of the
various contacts he's making there. I wonder if you'd like to
reconsider funding the proposal Joscha and I sent you some months ago,
for work on intelligent/simply-conscious virtual animals? Or did
that happen not to float your boat? We have discussed many other
possibilities for collaboration, e.g. application of OpenCog +MicroPsi
to mathematical theorem-proving (via grounding mathematics in embodied
experience, along the lines that Lakoff and Nunez discussed in "Where
Mathematics Comes From")
Gino Yu told me he met you recently. He's a fun guy who helped me
get started here in Hong Kong. His wife's family is very wealthy and
influential here (though his wife, while head of the Hong Kong Chamber
of Commerce, got busted for insider trading and spent 1.5 years in
jail here... really a bummer for Gino's kids... but anyway she's been
out a while now and is back in business...)
As for Rupert Sheldrake, yes I know him.... He's not a super-close
friend but I visited his house in London in 2012, and have emailed
with him a few times since then. Also he had a paper in a book on psi
that I co-edited last year, see
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http://www.amazon.comJEvidence-Psi-Thirteen-Empirical-Research/dp/0786478284
or see
http://ger g/Evidence_for_Psi_PREPRINT.pdf
for a free digital copy ... the password is
dataWillPrevail
Rupert has found various private funders for his experiments in the
past, but I'm sure he would be happy to have more funding for more
experiments.
If you're in an especially open-minded mood, you might enjoy my
speculative thoughts on a potential physics foundation for Rupert's
morphic field idea, see
http://multiverseaccordingtoben.blogspot.hk/2014/09/morphic-fields-memory-psi-unified.html
Shall I put you in touch with Rupert by email?
I would be interested to try to figure out an experiment that would
probe the quantitative nature and "laws" of putative morphic fields
more precisely. I think his idea is deep and fascinating, yet too
slippery for my taste.... His email and telephone telepathy
experiments are fascinating and I think could be developed to give
further information. For instance, he finds that this sort of
telepathy typically takes places between members of groups who share
social or emotional bonds. So, I wonder if this could be quantified.
If we measure social and emotional bonds using psychosocial survey
instruments, can we then use this information to probabilistically
predict the degree of email or telephone telepathy? This could tell
us something about the information-theoretic nature of the patterns
that "morphic fields" (whatever they really are) pay attention to....
Of course, he may have even better ideas for new experiments....
Yours,
Ben
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:47 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi, I have begun funding some Al to the minus one. . answers are not as
> interesting as great questions. i want a machine that can ask quesitons.?
> In my scouting I saw you supported rupert sheldrakes right to speak. have
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> you met him. Id like to fund something . if controls adequate
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