From: "Jeffrey E." <jeevacation@gmail.com>
To: Richard Kahn
Subject: Re: Next
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2017 20:21:07 +0000
may i please have the list of who is selling what ? if you subtracted value based on the contingeincies then you
already have an idea. howver i will ask . if that moves this along
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 10:17 PM, Richard Kahn < > wrote:
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue 4th Floor
New York. NY 10022
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From: Neale Attenborough <
Subject: RE: Next
Date: September 6, 2017 at 4:16:37 PM EDT
To: Richard Kahn
Cc: Chris Lawler Tyler Shean
I do not agree to your premise on the face of it because we are already starting at a substantially discounted valuation
in light of these contingent liabilities already. This is why I want them detailed precisely.
I am sure you or your client (who would know them much better than we do) can articulate what they are specifically.
From: Richard Kahn i'mailto.
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 4:12 PM
To: Neale Attenborough
Cc: Chris Lawler; Tyler Shean
Subject: Re: Next
neale,
frankly, I don't have them, however I would have thought you did... lets try to see if there is a deal and then
we all can agree on what the contingencies are...
you will certainly agree that if they pertain to the period of your ownership you will be responsible for your
share...and actions relating to liabilities after closing is another story
thank you
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Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
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fax
cell
On Sep 6, 2017, at 3:51 PM, Neale Attenborough < > wrote:
What are the specific actions you refer to as Paris, Milan and New York, with case numbers and a summary of the
cases.
From: Richard Kahn [mailto:
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 3:47 PM
To: Neale Attenborough
Cc: Chris Lawler; Tyler Shean
Subject: Re: Next
contigent liabilities are paris, milan, and the new york lawsuit that is looking to form a class...
this is obviously separate and apart from all actions that might be brought that would be relevant to the time
of your ownership.
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
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fax
cell
On Sep 6, 2017, at 3:16 PM, Neale Attenborough < > wrote:
We have a term sheet ready and will forward once we receive the list of contingent liabilities you would
like us to consider, as we agreed on our last call.
On Sep 5, 2017, at 10:02 AM, Richard Kahn < > wrote:
When can I expect your term sheet with details that we discussed explaining exactly what entity will be
selling what...
I would assume your offer of 8 million cash and 1 million a year for three years would allow for the
litigation expense and liability (if any) to come out of the future payments... so probably 5 years
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needed...
Please advise
Thank you
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
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fax
cell
On Aug 31, 2017, at 7:02 AM, Neale Attenborough wrote:
As we agreed yesterday:
We will lay our a term sheet which includes the deal I spoke of
yesterday. It will include all the entities that will be involved
and the concept of some cash paid over time.
You will detail exactly which potential liabilities you speak of
below you would like us to consider.
We can then see fit is possible to hammer out a deal.
Thanks.
On Aug 31, 2017, at 5:55 AM, Richard Kahn
> wrote:
To move this along I would suggest the following: a rough
detailed draft of a term sheet with seller companies detailed.
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how many entities? an amount of cash left back and an
amount of dollars also spread over a number of years.
default suggestions and your ideas on how to deal with
liablity. ie ny class action waiting to be certified. . others
like paris etc. thank you.
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue, 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
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Cell
On Aug 30, 2017, at 7:16 AM, Richard Kahn
> wrote:
I would add that you are selling an offshore vehicle formed
under an agreement that puzzles me. The whole co is not
for sale and if so we might argue along some similar but
less exagerrated lines multiples of large biz from years
ago. I guess if you find the dramatically too low, you might
offer to buy out Faith and Joel , using your formulas. with
a premium for control. Jeffrey is set to join the call and has
authority to make the decision to accept or reject.
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue, 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
Pho
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On Aug 30, 2017, at 6:25 AM, Richard Kahn
<,
> wrote:
i already pointed out currency exchange, board fees etc. as
a bad number in your calculations. sorry....the other
transactions that we know very well are far from relevant. .
if faith and joel walk there is NO business which is hardly
the same idea as IMG where multi divisions exist and
succession is planned. I do not know what cash was on
the balance sheet when you bought it. The open gate
transaction to summarize was a stepping into your shoes
for only 6 million or roughly the same as the current offer.
taking out cash 14 of the 15 mil which has not come out.
and even on your calculation of 8 cash would mean 3.2 to
you back then... and then leveraging the biz. / the liability
to the buyer was no where near that to golden gate. sorry.
. . We can go back and forth on comps and can show
mom and pop at 1 to 3 times ebitda. . so lets try to short
circuit a tiresome uncessary excercise, as i see it the
current bid offer is 5 bid and approx 9 .2 offer. open gates
6 + 3.2 from 2 years ago with more growth potential and
lower cash out. multiples from before digital photos and
amazon. sorry I am suprised that you would inflate
current Ebitda, pull multiples from many years ago to biz
that are tangential. leave out liabilites even of lawsuits that
you know about, and then pick a cash number to subtract
for enterprise value. If I have misunderstood and you are
not really sellers then I will not be insulted if you decide to
cancel our call.
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue, 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
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On Aug 29, 2017, at 10:40 PM, Neale Attenborough
> wrote:
Richard,
Not funny at all, just factual.
I think if we are to ultimately agree on value it will be important we agree on a set of facts:
1. TTM EBITDA is $6.7Million. If you disagree, please let us know precisely what items you
disagree with in the number and we can discuss.
2. The current cash balance for the company is $13.1 Million.
3. The past three comparable transactions for companies in this market average an enterprise
value at —10x multiple of EBITDA
a. Wilhelmina: 7x (average meaningful trading multiple since 2010)
b. Creative Artists Agency: 10x (TPG acquisition, 2014)
c. IMG: 13x (WME acquisition, 2013)
4. We invested $18 million for a 42% stake in the business, implying an enterprise value of
$42.9 million.
5. We received a bona fide offer from OpenGate Capital which would have resulted in $18
million in proceeds for us (and in fact a $17 million distribution to Faith and Joel), and while they
were, as you point out, contemplating leverage in the <3x EBITDA range, it is in fact a relevant
data point and an independent look at value.
6. One other note that is relevant to us, is that when Elite Models in Europe contacted us with
an interest in buying the company, Faith told me to relay to them that they would not
contemplate selling to Elite for less than $100 million (which at the time was a +10x synergy-
adjusted EBITDA value). Ultimately they walked based on that value requirement.
I would hope you agree that the following is a commonly agreed upon formula for value:
a. Enterprise value = EBITDA x Market Multiple
b. Equity Value = Enterprise Value + net cash (or — net debt).
One matter of judgment is what of the cash balance is "excess cash". Joel has said he believes all the
cash is due to the models. The facts show that in the ordinary course of business the collection of
receivables offsets the payables and in the past three years, the cash balance has only fluctuated at most
by $3 million, meaning anywhere from $8-10 million on the balance sheet should be considered to be
"excess cash", not needed for day-to-day operations. I have attached both a three year cash balance
tracker and a current balance sheet for your review.
Using the above, a very modest calculation of value would be $6.7 million of EBITDA x 5 multiple (a 50%
discount to the market) or an enterprise value of $33.5 million and if we took a conservative view of
what excess cash is at the moment of $8 million, would result in a total equity value of $41.5 million.
Our 42% would equate to $17.4 million of proceeds to us. That is at a multiple that has been deeply
discounted to the market comps that were actually paid for companies in the same business.
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We are, however, willing to take much less than this very discounted value calculation, as I have
mentioned to you before. However, your proposal of $5 million of proceeds to us represents an equity
value of $11.9 million ($51.42), an enterprise value of $3.9 million ($11.9 million - $8 million of excess
cash) or an EBITDA multiple of 0.58x ($6.7 x 0.58 = $3.9 enterprise value), a level that is far too low for
us to accept.
I look forward to our discussion tomorrow morning.
Neale
From: Richard Kahn (mailto
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 11:51 AM
To: Neale Attenborough
Cc: Chris Lawler
Subject: Re: Next
Pretty funny Neale...
Even the silly open gate proposal was in essence stepping into your shoes for only 6 million
cash. BACK THEN !!
Then proposing to distribute what they estimated to be almost the full total (14 of the 15 million)
of cash on the balance sheet. Chris i must point out that is more than it totals today. Then
having Joel, Faith, etc leverage themselves up by borrowing at 7 percent against the entire co in
order to make a further distribution of an additional 15 million which on paper creates a highly
inflated enterprise value. He only proposed 6 million cash infusion which is around the same
amount that you are currently being offered. They valued faith and joels ongoing equity (that
they proposed they "keep in") silly, at 8mm which is roughly the same as we suggested.
Financial engineering done well is like lipstick.. however not done well is also like lipstick. :)
This is a personal service business, no more no less and suggesting that they leverage themselves
up so you that they can pay themselves a higher salary fails the HBS first year class that i am
aware you have taken. Regarding the 18 million, we have distributions from Next directly to
the former shareholders of the claxon offshore entity of approx 3. Regarding the receivables you
can ask millie... sorry
PS Faith and joel will have to borrow the money to buy you out at 5.. can be done, but not
so easy. they have never taken out real money from the company in any form: salary etc....
hence they have little net worth and current lenders are not that comfortable with the potential
liabilities....
On Aug 24, 2017, at 4:50 PM, Neale Attenborough < wrote:
I look forward to our conversation.
For the record, we did actually pay $18MM for 42% of this business in 2008. At the time that
represented an —8x multiple of EBITDA. That is not a fictitious number. In addition we did receive a
bid for about the same amount from Open Gate Capital, a reputable private equity firm. I do not
understand why you say that ii is "hardly legitimate". While I did say we didn't expect to receive what
we paid, I did not say it was immaterial.
I don't follow most of what you say below and look forward to hearing your clarification. However, can
you please clarify one statement specifically? What do you mean when you say the current
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receivables have not be reviewed in years?
Thanks,
Neale
From: Richard Kahn (rnailto:
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 3:45 PM
To: Neale Attenborough
Cc: Chris Lawler
Subject: Next
confirmed thank you
We have reviewed your statements that you sent to us along with the K-1's and some
financials. Frankly, some of the numbers are inaccurate as a result of millie. Your annual
financial statements were reviewed but not audited - shame on all of you... Your calculation
of Ebitda includes things like adding back foreign exchange costs? board fees etc. That is not
the way we look at what is unfortunately for all merely a personal service business.
Faith and Joel make up the business, nothing more. We calculate the Ebidta, which we think is
an odd way of measuring value of a personal service biz with lots of competition and small
growth opportuinties if any. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, and ignoring how much you
paid or if some of that money was repaid directly to the former owners of Claxon and not truly
understanding what you described as a fixed tax payment per quarter (ie based on what I think
looking back over the past three years) ebitda looks like 4-5 million. We have bought many
small biz and usually pay mom and pops for 1- 3 times ebita or more usually 4 times net
income. We are finding it difficult to get to more than a 15 million total value for Next ( not
including liabilities). The 18 million dollar bid that you mentioned Faith said was hardly
legitimate. I think further review of the accounting tax etc. is probably a waste of all our
time. As you rightly said, what you initially paid is somewhat if not totatly immaterial to
todays value. You have not factored in the liabilities, both reputationally and fiscal yet. I
think the 5 million cash offer or 6m over time is fair. I look forward to our conversation on
tuesday. As another note, the current receivables have not been reviewed for years...
Rich
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