From: "Jeffrey E." <jeevacation@gmail.com>
To: Jeffrey Epstein <jeevacation@gmail.com>
Subject: jeffrey martin
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 12:30:26 +0000
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Hi Jeffrey,
I've been thinking about you as I sit in Delta's lounge waiting for my delayed flight to LA. The conversation about the math
on your blackboard reaffirmed my intuition about you and put you back on my mind. I thought that maybe my email had
waved you off this line of inquiry. That would have been as fine an outcome as not, because from a personal perspective I
think that the most important thing for you is to stop wasting time on this one way or the other. Either you need to start
actually making progress or just walk away. It seems like there are many other fields that can use what you're capable of if
you're not going to make progress on this one.
Nonetheless you seem to remain interested in working on this stuff, even if you are still a bit stuck in what you're hoping
for based on where you're at. I get what you're hoping and asking for. You want some kind of initial personal experience
that convinces you that this "weird stuff" is real. My offer, revised below, contained my very best advice on this matter. I
think you are best off if you can bring your expectations into alignment with what I say in it. I've tried hard to provide the
best path for you not wasting any more time on this.
My opinions haven't changed, ultimately I think what you are hoping for will be a waste of your time until you build some
more capacity to have these kinds of experiences, but I see no reason not to humor you once as long as it is part of the
agreement and you agree to the whole thing regardless of whether your initial request for an experience does or doesn't
work - because the path that I've laid out will ultimately work for you if you trod down it.
You seem to have a penchant for the guy who makes walls come alive/etc. for me. Although I personally doubt you can
get an experience from him until you increase your capacity, the reality is that he is ridiculously skilled and powerful, and
as a result it's not completely out of the question. You may feel some kind of energy, or something in your state of
consciousness or something else. And, I can probably get him to come to you.
Something you need to keep in mind about me is that by far the most important thing is my relationship with these
individuals, because of what they mean to my PNSE research. I've only recently worked my way up my model to their
level. If this stuff doesn't get figured out from a physics perspective, or whatever, I can live with that because I'm going to
figure out how to scale the elimination of unnecessary human psychological suffering either way - and I consider that
more important. On the other hand if the physics of this kind of thing can be worked out while my relationships are
preserved, that seems like an additional and very valuable contribution to humanity. I'm just not willing to risk the
direction I'm headed in or progress on my core project for it.
These folks are already extremely rare, hard to locate, deal with, get to participate in more in-depth research, and so on
because there is virtually nothing that I or anyone else can offer them. They always have to just want to do it on their
own, for their own reasons. The last thing I want to do is have them feel like I wasted even a moment of their time by
dragging them to meet with someone who is asking them to put on a show but is out of sync with their capabilities and
can't experience it. That's the kind of thing that is a relationship ender in their world, because it would show them that
they can no longer trust in my judgement regarding requests for their time. And, frankly, it should be.
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However, it just so happens that the person you keep mentioning has a belief that just one engaged super rich person
could change the world. His view is that if just one of you could be convinced, that he then could convince you that what
the Vedas say are true, and get you to do things like fund tens of thousands of pandits to say specific prayers and do
certain ceremonies all day that will save humanity from a great deal of suffering. Etc.
Remember my previous admonition about not getting caught up in the tightly held but generally conflicting beliefs these
various folks have when you hear things like that. Literally, he completely believes this. Of course, who knows, maybe it's
true, but they can't all be right and often the beliefs among these individuals conflict. Nonetheless, in this case it is a
helpful belief in that it leads me to suppose that I could probably get him to take his best shot with you. He's the only one
I know of with this kind of view.
I wouldn't get your hopes up because of where you're currently at. The important thing for me is that that it won't be a
waste of my time (and thus ultimately not yours either, despite how you hope for this to unfold), because I can use the
period of time to do my initial in-person assessment of you. And, having him take a crack at you will also provide useful
assessment information regarding where he thinks you're at and what needs to be worked on to increase your capacity to
perceive this type of stuff. So, for very little tradeoff, it gets us started on the direction I believe we should be going in.
And, who knows, maybe you'll get lucky and get an experience that satisfies you.
So, my amended offer is below.
Again, based on our research your three biggest barriers are: immersion in a highly analytical mind, high mathematical
aptitude, and a large sex drive with at least some degree of dominance focus. These are all things that co-vary in our
research populations with tremendous struggle and difficulty in making progress towards the type experiences you're
interested in. Essentially, they are hallmarks of a mind that is incredibly strong and won't let go for long enough to allow
the experiences in.
Unless you get extremely lucky, I don't think it will matter how many more people you have parade in front of you trying
to give you an experience. Though there are people out there (mostly in hiding, because demoing their skills has only
freaked people around them out for the most part) who seem to be able to deliver an experience for just about anyone,
even if you do get lucky and have someone like Gino find one and bring him or her to you, I don't think it will be that
satisfying or useful in broader extrapolation for a "mechanism of action," as you put it. You'll miss 90+% of the picture and
lose years that you don't have to in the process. Buried in the 90+% will be the best stuff.
You have to be able to really understand it. For that, you need two things. First, to gain some experience with it personally,
internally. For that to happen in a reasonable timeframe, you need to have the groundwork laid in you by an integrated
team of highly skilled people if you're going to make progress that adds up to anything meaningful. This is not a simple
thing to craft, and in my experience can't be done reliably from within a single tradition. Second you need a shortcut to an
accurate composite overview, to have all the bullshit sorted through, and to not waste time on the wrong people. That is
very, very hard to do. It has taken me a lifetime. I don't know of anyone else who's done it, and I'm quite convinced at this
point that I know or know all about (if I don't want to personally know) everyone who matters.
Experiences aren't your primary issue - capacity is. You have built tremendous capacity in many areas of your life, but
most are out of phase with this one. I do think that it's important that you have experiences in this area, but that is not
enough in my opinion. You have to really understand it. No matter how bizarre and crazy what you're exposed to sounds
or seems. You are going to have to be open minded and take some time and develop the appropriate capacity.
What I'll Do
I will be your key advisor in this part of your life, initially working closely with you to build up capacity in you. I'll arrange
for both myself and the person who you're initially interested in to see you. Perhaps he will give you an experience that is
meaningful for you, perhaps not. I would not expect much until you build capacity.
Either way, in a very real sense you will be the empirical experiment we work on together first. We will move as quickly as
you can handle and we both have time for, being very careful regarding how we integrate it all for you because of the
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responsibilities in the rest of your life. Even if you have an initial experience with the person I bring, it is still essential for
future progress that we get you to be able to reliably sense energy. If it works with him, that will be a helpful starting
point in terms of one type of person for you to work with in expanding your capacity. If not, it crosses one off the list and
provides meaningful feedback.
There will be an initial in-person assessment by me and also the person that you want to see, then another round of
assessments by others I select based on mine (and to a lesser degree, his). Then we will bring in the most advanced
people from my network who are best at cultivating what needs to be done, and see which ones fit best to where you are
at. Even if this guy rocks your world, you'll still need the right team to make meaningful progress.
It's important to keep in mind that no one can do everything in the space you're wanting to explore. Some people may
have a remarkable ability to see energies, beings, etc. But, that's it. That's what they can do. Or maybe they can also do a
few other things, like move objects. Other's may have the ability to heal. I have that one. But, they aren't seeing beings.
Even among those who see beings, often people see specific kinds (I think of them as specific bandwidths) of them and
not others. You get the idea. Everyone is a unique, partial mix of the overall landscape.
You will be like everyone else. You'll have one or more areas with aptitude, and others that just aren't your calling.
Figuring that out will be important to meaningful progress for you and will take some trial and error to see what you are
and aren't sensitive to. Because we know we're working with the best people, we'll be able to determine fit without
wasting time or introducing inaccuracies.
We'll also want to build capacity in your environment. For example, it's likely that one of your residences will be
energetically better than others. NYC is unlikely, maybe NM, maybe St. Jeff, maybe somewhere else. Environment matters.
Even the world's greatest expert on fires can't build one in a blizzard with nothing flammable to scrounge from the
surroundings. We'll be having good people suss this out, clean and protect it energetically, etc. If this sounds weird, get
used to itl
This may sound esoteric, but another issue I see stems from the press you've received, most of which is similar. It all must
lead to a lot of negativity being projected from people's consciousness in your direction. This is something important to
deal with as part of the overall picture. I don't mean publicly with PR, but rather energetically. I know that may sound
weird to you. Again, get used to itl
These things are step one. When you can reliably sense energy then we move on. By that point I'm sure you'll be well into
theorizing mechanism since you'll be able to play with it yourself. I expect that we'll be exploring this together for quite a
while. If you want to do that, if so here are the other terms of engagement:
Part I: Non-Financial
1.) First, our work together must be completely confidential unless and until we both agree that it won't be, starting with
this email. This is not an offer you can pass along to someone else or involve anyone else in. I don't take referrals. I don't
care who your clients and friends are that are interested in this. This email originates in a feeling I have about you being
worth the time I spend with you. I'm happy to talk enlightenment or anything else I know about with others if time
permits (including any of your friends, etc.) but much of what we'll do will be outside of what I say publicly and it will
need to stay that way until agreed upon otherwise.
2.) This needs to be a priority in your life. It requires a certain density to make progress with. If you do a little here, and a
little there, all spread out - you won't make meaningful progress. We'll be respectful of the demands of your life, but it will
need to be situated within your list of priorities.
3.) Much of this is going to seem weird. I mean really, really bizarre to the point of impossible to believe and sometimes
completely nuts. The people, stories, their beliefs, the stuff you see and do - you name it, all of it. Even with the
frameworks I provide for you to slot it into, this is going to be an extremely strange ride for you. You have to trust me,
work with who I ask, and do what they recommend no matter how bizarre the person seems to you. You'll notice very
quickly that, for the most part, the very best people all have the most entrenched belief systems, and most of them
contradict each other. You don't care about any of that, just what they can do and do for you. You have to let them work
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their magic, and discard or ignore the rest that comes with it. Whatever you do, don't fall into the trap of looking into
their beliefs for hidden gold.
4.) I'm sure before long you'll be involved in all sorts of research efforts based on your experiences. You must agree to
make sure I'm involved in all these projects at some level, a co-author on pubs unless I decline it, etc. Frankly, you'll most
likely waste your money on these if you don't anyway. I bet that when I find out what they were, I could have gotten some
of your previous efforts to work.
5.) Relationships with some of the most advanced spiritual people you'll be working with will be very, very fragile and
generally not governed by the rules of social interaction as you currently understand them. You'll need to give yourself
time to adjust to that, and be extra careful until you have. I will phase them in as I feel comfortable, but you definitely will
not be able to 'just be yourself with them. You'll need to very carefully monitor the stimulus-response of your interactions
and learn how best to interact. Observing me will help you learn faster. Time with these people is rare and hard to come
by, especially in the ways you'll be working with them. It needs to be treated that way. For the most part, they don't
function like other people and the rules you're used to in gaining compliance from others don't apply to them. In many
ways, who you are and the life you've built is a detriment in their eyes.
6.) You must agree not to push the people you'll be working with to be involved in research projects. It's fine to mention it
briefly and see if they pick up on it, but if you push, they say no and you persist, many will disappear on you.
7.) Some of the people you'll work with will be women with a liberal political orientation. Many in general will have very
specific ethical standards based in religion or spirituality. The reality is that all of these folks will most likely have an issue
with your background. So, you'll need to be comfortable working with folks anonymously or using an alias. They will
understand anonymity because nearly all will have dealt with people who did not want the rest of their life to find out
they were working on this kind of stuff. Also, although your normal dress and demeaner will be fine for them, your other
trappings will repel some of the key people we'll want you to work with. We will need alternate and more "normal"
seeming locations to work in when you need to be in NYC, etc.
8.) Along these lines...a few (legal age) slave girls of my own choosing, in the event that at least some of your press
coverage is accurate... ; )
9.) Getting you or anyone else an 'experience' is not interesting to me, unless it leads to more widespread and meaningful
progress in some way. The ability to feel things like that yourself whenever you want will add you to both the subject and
experimenter pool. I expect to be working together on this for a long time, and I intuit you will make important progress
on it theoretically and practically that no one else has. Just want to state this succinctly and explicitly, and make sure that
you are serious about this as well.
10.) You must recognize that this is not an exclusive engagement. I'm making time for it in a life that is full to overflowing
just like you are, because of my intuition about your potential. However, it has to fit into both of our lives and other
commitments, not just yours.
11.) It has to be fun to work and spend time with you, so far I've enjoyed you so I don't think this will be an issue.
12.) If we make it more than several weeks and you're not sensing energy, I'll fire you. In all seriousness, just about the
only reason for that will be because you're not truly serious deep down, and I'll most likely reclaim my time in that case.
Part II, Financial
13.) Recall that I look for four things. First, the willingness to pay a sizable initial performance-based fee, because it shows
the person values and will prioritize what I'm offering and is less likely to waste my time. I've known plenty of
centimillionaires and billionaires well enough to see them pass out six to seven figure chunks like they are pennies, and
for things of fleeting interest. They all seem to manufacture money on demand, so when they don't want to pay
something it's generally because they aren't serious enough about it. Second, the ability for outsized positive impact on
the world relating to my expertise that I don't think I could create otherwise, from and with an acceptable level of time
investment. Third, the potential for significant additional/ongoing revenue to go along with that impact. Fourth, fun.
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My performance-based fee is $10M net after tax or tax-free, in this case payable when you have an experience whether
with the initial person I bring to you, me, or someone or something at some point thereafter. I will be engineering your
initial experiences around sensing energy because it is the key starting point, for reasons you'll come to understand soon
if we work together. The person I bring down will as well, because that's how I know he works.
The payment will need to be structured in a way that is not easy for even someone like you to find as linked to me, that
also allows the funds to be spent penalty free in any amount in the US, EU, etc. Whatever structure you want to use for
that will be fine but need to be run by the only FA I completely trust. He handles plenty of billionaires himself, so don't
worry about quality and sophistication. I'll pull 10%-20% out and give it to the FA so I know the account is real, and leave
the rest invested with you assuming you have an account you trade for F&F, key employees/associates or something
similar. If not I'll understand that I don't meet your client requirements and just let the FA manage it all.
14.) You agree to cover the expenses to get people to you, me to them, or you when needed; costs for their time and
services; etc. Since my only other fees are performance-based, essentially these are your up-front costs. I don't care if it is
some general pool like you've done with people like Gino, or expensed individually through someone in one of your
offices. It all has to be tracked either way for someone's taxes. Some of the people we'll be working with refuse to charge
for their time. Whatever you do, don't push them on that point. We'll lose them.
15.) Understanding these phenomena with mathematics and physics, predictions based on them, engineering them, etc.
will be insanely valuable. My intuition is that you'll figure out at least key and useful pieces of it, and capitalize on it based
on the short cuts and head start I'll provide, plus other stuff we do together. I want ongoing financial participation in
whatever that turns out to be.
16.) Related to the above, I also want financial participation in anything you've already got underway that gets monetized,
provided I add value to it. Same for anything you tried in the past that I can make work that is monetized in some way.
17.) Soon you will feel energy. You'll also learn that there are people who can very precisely see and guide this in you. I
personally think that one of the lowest hanging fruits is a sync'd HD-EEG experiment involving this. Sufficient preliminary
work has already shown that it's going to show up in both brains, with some sort of time delay. My intuition is that this
delay will be a useful and important mathematical cornerstone for you to chew on, once it is nailed down at different
distances. Precise calculation of this delay at great distances is not a trivial problem. We'll want to investigate this in a
private project very early on, and I'll want to do it with my own hand-picked people so that it doesn't get messed up.
There are only a handful of people who won't mess this up. UPDATE: Interestingly, since I first wrote this the pieces of the
project have started forming seemingly on their own, including six figure equipment investments to fill in missing pieces.
18.) Many of the most useful people in a key area for what you are interested in will soon be dead from old age. To say
that the clock is ticking is an understatement. A key person could literally die while you're reading this that might take
years or longer to replace. Or might never be replaced. There's a secret meeting (or a series of them) that needs to
happen as soon as possible between these people. The right ones need to all be put in the same room, for as long as it
takes, with the right framing, to share knowledge and, to some degree, fight it out. It is the rarest of opportunities to let
pass by, but has to be done just right to be successful. If it is, it has the very real possibility of saving your "mechanism of
action" portion of the project a huge amount of time. UPDATE: Interestingly, since I first wrote this I have run across a
number of these people, many of whom I haven't seen in years or even decades, and verified that they want to do this.
They have even started to reach out to each other about it. It turns out, they are all so old that the politics and history
between them don't seem to matter much anymore. Probably this can be done for almost nothing, but I think it would be
nice to cover their travel and such.
Timing if you agree
If you're going to be in Santa Fe for a bit past the weekend, perhaps the person you want to meet and I come there on
Sunday and meet either Sunday or Monday, flights depending. Santa Fe is probably the best of your places sans St. Jeff. I'll
have to check with him, but generally these folks don't have previous time commitments. This is probably the best time
window for me, though I've got my 'D' suitcase with me at this point and will need to buy some better clothes if I'm not
flying back to PA on Sunday.
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I need to head to Boulder no later than Thursday morning and will be there through the weekend. I was going to bounce
back to PA for a few days, but can just go straight. Then I have to bounce back to Palo Alto for a week to work on finishing
up a project for one of my student's PhD's. Then I have to go to the Midwest for the funeral of a dear friend, that is the
same period as Burning Man so I won't see you there if you go. It's kind of one of those time periods where week after
week is stacked up with a trip. September is a bit kinder. October and November are loaded with travel and events,
including our main TransTech conference.
Much Love,
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