From: Ben Goertzel
To: "jeffrey E." <jeevacation@gmail.com>
Subject: Re:
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:09:06 +0000
Attachments: Goertzel Harrigan Bach Black_Foundation_Proposal_2014.pdf
BTW to ease your potential re-reading, here is a re-send of the
proposal Joscha and I made for you last year ;)
--ben
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 1:01 AM, jeffrey E. leevacation@gmail.com> wrote:
> yes IU would like to be put in touch, yes i will re read . gino is still
> an unlknown
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Ben Goertzel <a wrote:
>>
» Hi Jeffrey,
>> Good to hear from you!
>> BTW -- We have not yet been able to install our software on your
>> Virgin Islands server as requested, because the sys-admin there,
>> Jermaine, has not yet opened a port in the router there to let us
>> access the machine remotely. I wonder if he doesn't know how to do
>> that? (but it's a very basic thing...).... Anyhow we have emailed and
» asked him to do this several times...
>>
>> I like the idea of a machine that can ask questions...! Actually the
>> logic of questions is dual to the logic of answers, see
>> http://www.gatsby.ucl.ac.uk/aistats/fullpapersl246.pdf
>> Making OpenCog ask questions to fill in gaps in its knowledge is one
>> of our current priorities, in fact....
>> I'm glad to hear you have decided to fund Joscha for another year. He
>> is really enjoying his time in Boston and getting a lot out of the
>> various contacts he's making there. I wonder if you'd like to
>> reconsider funding the proposal Joscha and I sent you some months ago,
>> for work on intelligent/simply-conscious virtual animals? Or did
>> that happen not to float your boat? We have discussed many other
>> possibilities for collaboration, e.g. application of OpenCog +MicroPsi
>> to mathematical theorem-proving (via grounding mathematics in embodied
>> experience, along the lines that Lakoff and Nunez discussed in "Where
» Mathematics Comes From")
>>
>> Gino Yu told me he met you recently. He's a fun guy who helped me
>> get started here in Hong Kong. His wife's family is very wealthy and
>> influential here (though his wife, while head of the Hong Kong Chamber
>> of Commerce, got busted for insider trading and spent 1.5 years in
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>> jail here... really a bummer for Gino's kids... but anyway she's been
>> out a while now and is back in business...)
»
>> As for Rupert Sheldrake, yes I know him.... He's not a super-close
» friend but I visited his house in London in 2012, and have emailed
» with him a few times since then. Also he had a paper in a book on psi
» that I co-edited last year, see
>>
>>
» or see
>> http://goertzel.org/Evidence_for Psi_PREPRINT.pdf
>> for a free digital copy ... the password is
»
>> Rupert has found various private funders for his experiments in the
>> past, but I'm sure he would be happy to have more funding for more
>> experiments.
>> If you're in an especially open-minded mood, you might enjoy my
>> speculative thoughts on a potential physics foundation for Rupert's
>> morphic field idea, see
>>
>> http://multiverseaccordingtoben.blogspot.h1c/20 I 4/09/morphic-fields-memory-psi-unified.html
>> Shall I put you in touch with Rupert by email?
>> I would be interested to try to figure out an experiment that would
>> probe the quantitative nature and "laws" of putative morphic fields
>> more precisely. I think his idea is deep and fascinating, yet too
>> slippery for my taste.... His email and telephone telepathy
>> experiments are fascinating and I think could be developed to give
>> further information. For instance, he finds that this sort of
>> telepathy typically takes places between members of groups who share
>> social or emotional bonds. So, I wonder if this could be quantified.
>> If we measure social and emotional bonds using psychosocial survey
>> instruments, can we then use this information to probabilistically
>> predict the degree of email or telephone telepathy? This could tell
» us something about the information-theoretic nature of the patterns
>> that "morphic fields" (whatever they really are) pay attention to....
>> Of course, he may have even better ideas for new experiments....
» Yours,
» Ben
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>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:47 AM, jeffrey E. leevacation@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > hi, I have begun funding some Al to the minus one.. answers are not as
>> > interesting as great questions. i want a machine that can ask
>» quesitons.?
>> > In my scouting I saw you supported rupert sheldrakes right to speak.
>» have
>> > you met him. Id like to fund something . if controls adequate
» >
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» Ben Goertzel, PhD
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>> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one
>> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
>> progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw
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"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw
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