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SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK
COUNTY OF NEW YORK
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SHELDON BARR and THOMAS GARDNER,
Plaintiffs,
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CITY OF NEW YORK and 116 EAST 65TH
STREET, LLC,
Defendants,
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535 Fifth Avenue
New York, New York
April 9, 2019
10:07 a.m.
EXAMINATION BEFORE TRIAL of the Defendant,
116 EAST 65TH STREET, LLC, by GHISLAINE MAXWELL, in
the above-entitied action, held at the above time
and place, taken before a Notary Public of the State
of New York, pursuant to Order and Stipulations
between Counsel.
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2 APPEARANCE S:
3 THE LAW OFFICE OF JOSEPH FALLEK
4 Attorney for Plaintiffs
One Battery Park Plaza, 32nd Floor
5 New York, New York 10004
6 BY: LARRY FALLEK, ESQ.
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8 CUOMO, LLC.
Attorney for Defendant
116 EAST 65TH STREET, LLC.
200 Old Country Road, Suite 2 South
Mineola, New York 11501
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BY: MATTHEW CUOMO, ESQ.
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2 STIPULATIONS
3 IT IS HEREBY STIPULATED AND AGREED by and
4 between(among) counsel for the respective parties
5 hereto, that:
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7 All rights provided by the C.P.L.R.,
8 including the right to object to any question,
9 except as to form, or to move to strike any
ID testimony at this(these) examinations(s), are
11 reserved, and, in addition, the failure to object to
12 any question or to move to strike any testimony at
13 :his(these) examination(s) shall not be a bar or
14 waiver to make such motion at, and is reserved for
lb the trial of this action;
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17 IT IS FURTHER STIPULATED AND AGREED by and
18 between(among) counsel for the respective parties
19 hereto, that this(these) examinations(s) may be
20 sworn to by the witness(es) being examined, before a
21 Notary Public other than the Notary Public before
22 whom thisithese) examination(s) was:were) begun; but
23 the failure to do so, or to return the original of
24 this(these) examinations(s) to counsel, shall not be
25 deemed a waiver of the rights provided by
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3 Rules 3116 and 3117 of the C.P.L.R., and shall be
4 controlled thereby;
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6 IT IS FURTHER STIPULATED AND AGREED by and
7 between(among) counsel for the respective parties
8 hereto, that this(these) examinations(s) may be
9 utilized for all purposes as provided by the
10 C.P.L.R;
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12 IT IS FURTHER STIPULATED AND AGREED by and
13 between(among) counsel for the respective parties
14 hereto, that the filing and certification of the
15 original of this(these) examination(s) shall be and
16 the same hereby are waived;
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18 IT IS FURTHER STIPULATED AND AGREED by and
19 between(among) counsel for the respective parties
20 hereto, that a copy of the within examination(s)
21 shall be furnished to counsel representing the
22 witness(es) testifying, without charge.
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24 IT IS FURTHER STIPULATED AND AGREED by and
25 between(among) counsel for the respective parties
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3 hereto, that all rights provided by the C.P.L.R.,
4 and Part 221 of the Uniform Rules for the Conduct of
5 Depositions, including the right to object to any
6 question, except as to form, or to move to strike
7 any testimony at this examination is reserved; and
8 in addition, the failure to object to any question
9 or to move to strike any testimony at this
10 examination shall not be a bar or waiver to make
11 such motion at, and is reserved to, the trial of
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL
2 GHISLAINE M A X W E L L, called as a
3 witness, having been first duly sworn by a Notary
Public of the State of New York, was examined and
testified as follows:
6 EXAMINATION BY
MR. FALLEK:
8 Q. Please state your name for the record.
9 A. Ghislaine Maxwell.
10 Q. Please state your address for the record.
11 A. 44 Kinnerton Street, London, England
12 SW183X.
13 MR. FALLEK: Good morning, Ms. Maxwell. My
14 name is Larry Fallek. I represent the
15 plaintiffs in this action, Sheldon Barr and
16 Thomas Gardner.
17 I will be asking you a series of questions
18 about an accident that occurred back on
19 September 9, 2015. Many of the questions are
20 going to involve your ownership. When I say,
21 "your ownership," I am referring to the
22 ownership of 116 East 65th Street in
23 Manhattan.
24 THE WITNESS: Okay.
25 MR. FALLEK: Before we start I have a few
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2 basic rules I want to discuss with you. Please
3 make all your responses verbally. The Court
Reporter can't take down a shake or nod of cite
b head. Like you are doing right now.
THE WITNESS: Of course.
7 MR. FALLEK: Please say yes or no.
6 THE WITNESS: Yes.
MR. FALLEK: And try not to shrug your
10 shoulders or anything like that. Just make all
11 your response verbally.
12 THE WITNESS: I shall.
13 MR. FALLEK: Please let me finish my entire
14 question before you give an answer. The Court
15 Reporter cannot take us both down speaking a -
16 the same time.
17 Q. Is that agreeable?
18 A. Yes.
19 MR. FALLEK: It's important that you stop
20 me if you don't understand a question. If you
21 do give an answer, I will assume that you
22 understand my question.
23 0. Is that understood?
24 A. Yes.
25 0. The address that you just gave the Cot a
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2 Reporter, how long have you lived there?
3 A. '92, '93.
4 Q. Is that your primary residence at this
5 time?
6 A. No. It's just a home that I have.
7 Q. How many homes do you own back in September
8 of 2015?
9 A. Two.
10 Q. Where are those homes?
11 A. 116 East 65th Street and the one in London.
12 Q. When you say, "the one in London," you are
13 referring to the address that you just gave?
14 A. Yes.
15 Q. Is that a private home?
16 A. Yes.
17 Q. Is that home owned by you individually or
18 some other form?
19 A. It's owned by me.
20 Q. Is your name on the deed to that property
21 or the title of the property?
22 A. It was back then. I kind of -- it was up
23 until recently. I don't know. I can't remember
24 what it is now, if I changed it or not.
25 Q. Sack in September of 2015, did you or any
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2 of your entities or companies own any other homes?
3 A. No.
4 Q. What was your primary residence back in
5 September of 2015?
6 A. 116 East 65th Street.
7 Q. Can you tell me how much time you spent
8 there, say, back in 2015 from January 1st through
September 9, 2015?
10 A. A lot of time. I lived there. That's my
11 primary residence.
12 Q. Did you travel back and forth between
13 London and New York?
14 A. Extensively at. all the time. I just Gen':
15 go to London. I travel all the time to a lot of
16 different places.
17 Q. For what purposes do you travel, business,
18 pleasure, or something else?
19 A. I do business. But, it was also I work
20 on work for a not-for-profit. And I do a lot
21 of time doing conferences and a lot of speeches.
22 Q. I'm just talking about the time period of
23 January 1, 2015 through September 9, 2015.
24 Would that be true with regard to that time
25 period?
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2 A. Correct.
3 Q. Where were you born?
4 A. Paris, France.
5 Q. What is your date of birth?
6 A. The 25th of December 1961.
7 Q. Are you a U.S. Citizen at this time?
8 A. Yes.
9 Q. When did you become a U.S. Citizen?
10 A. I don't recall. But it was some time in
11 the late '90s, mid '90s. I'm not sure. I don't
12 remember.
13 Q. Are you a citizen of any other country?
14 A. Yes
15 Q. What other countries?
16 A. France and England.
17 Q. Sorry, France and?
18 A. England.
19 Q. Are you a citizen or you are a green card
20 holder?
21 A. I'm a citizen.
22 Q. Can you tell me about your educational
23 background? What is the highest level of education
24 that you have?
25 A. I have a master's.
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2 Q. In what?
3 A. French and history from Oxford. It's a BA
4 MA. So when you go to oxford and you get a
5 bachelor's and some time passes and it turns into a
6 master's.
7 Q. What is the BA in?
8 A. French and history.
9 Q. It's a combined degree?
IC A. Double honors degree in French and history.
11 Q. Do you have any other degrees?
12 A. No.
13 Q. Do you have any professional degrees or
14 licenses?
15 A. I do.
16 Q. In what?
17 A. I'm a registered emergency technician,
18 first responder, EMT. I'm a helicopter pilot.
19 Q. Sorry?
20 A. Helicopter pilot.
21 Q. Is your certification as an EMT in the
22 United States or another country?
23 A. In the U.S.
24 Q. You didn't offer any medical assistance to
25 :he Plaintiff in this action?
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2 A. No.
3 Q. Are you presently employed?
4 A. No.
S 0. Are you self-employed?
A. No.
Q. What was the last job that you had?
A. The last job I had was at Ellmax.
9 E-L-L-M-A-X.
10 Q. What. is Ellmax?
11 A. It's no longer in existence.
12 Q. What was it?
13 A. It was a company I started to advise other
14 businesses on board placement, placing board of
15 directors, and any other questions they might have,
16 conferences, locations for conferences, speakers dt.
17 conferences.
18 Q. What is the primary business? Is it
19 Ellmax, LLC.?
20 A. I think so.
21 Q. Is that a Florida Limited Liability
22 Company?
23 A. Whatever paperwork I have. I don't recall.
24 Whatever it says on the paperwork.
25 MR. FALLEK: I'm going to show you three
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2 documents that we will have marked as
Plaintiff's Exhibit 1, 2, 3.
4 (Whereupon, the document dated 9-18-14,
5 was received and marked as Plaintiff's Exhibit 1
6 for identification, as of this date, by the
7 reporter.)
B (Whereupon, the document dated 2-23-15,
9 was received and marked as Plaintiff's Exhibit 2
10 for identification, as of this date, by the
11 reporter.)
12 (Whereupon, the document dated 3-22-16,
13 was received and marked as Plaintiff's Exhibit 3
14 for identification, as of this date, by the
15 reporter.)
16 MR. FALLEK: I'm directing your attention
17 to the document we just marked as Plaintiff's
18 Exhibit 1 for identification.
19 Q. Do you recognize this document to be the
20 2014 Florida Limited Liability Annual Report for
21 Illmax, LLC.?
22 A. I have not seen this document before so I
23 can't say that.
24 Q. Just take a look at it.
25 A. I'm looking at it, but it's the first time
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2 I've seen this.
3 Q. Did you form Ellmax, LLC.?
4 A. I did.
5 Q. Is it your company?
6 A. IL is. It was.
.7 0. When was it formed?
8 A. I think 2010 or '11.
9 Q. Was it formed in Florida?
10 A. I guess. I'm sorry, I just don't recall.
11 Q. Could you tell me what the business purpose
12 of Ellmax, LLC. is?
13 A. It was a vehicle for me to be able to
14 advise companies on board of directors and to help
15 with companies for conferences and speakers for
16 their conferences.
17 Q. Board of directors of what type of
18 companies are you advising people on?
19 A. Mostly technology businesses, because I
20 know a lot of people in technology. It could be in
21 anything as a board of directors are needed in any
22 type of company. And people of good character and
23 outstanding abilities in business are always needed.
24 And I, fortunately, have a lot of friends and people
25 in that area that I will be able to place people in
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2 those type of companies.
3 Q. Was the principal place of business of
4 Ellmax, LLC. at 116A East 65th Street, New York, New
5 York?
6 A. It wasn't that specific. It was wherever I
7 was. Everything that is in my head is my contact,
8 my ideas.
9 Q. Specifically the document in front of you,
10 when you formed it, did you indicate that the
11 principal place of business was 116 East 65th
12 Street, New York, New York?
13 A. I think it was just filed there. It would
14 be easier for me other than any other reason.
15 0. Did you sign the documents for the limited
16 liability company known as Ellmax, LLC.?
17 A. I'm sure I did with my lawyers. There was
18 no reason other than as an address of convenience.
19 MR. FALLEK: Move to strike the
20 nonresponsive portion.
21 THE WITNESS: I'm not trying
22 NR. FALLEK: Just try focus on the question
23 that I'm asking you.
24 THE WITNESS: I'm not trying to be
25 evasive.
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2 Q. Who is
A. She's my personal assistant.
4 Q. How long was she your personal assistant?
5 A. More than ten years.
6 Q. More than ten years from today?
A. No. She doesn't work for me anymore.
8 Q. When did you start working for you?
9 A. Again, some time in 2001, 2002. Something
10 like that.
11 Q. Was she your personal assistant for the
12 next ten years?
13 A. Yeah.
14 Q. Was she paid by Ellmax, LLC.?
15 A. I paid her myself.
16 Q. Did you pay her out of a different company
17 or different funds or what source?
18 A. I don't recall where I paid her from
19 exactly. She was not an employee of -- I was the
20 only person that did any work for Ellmax. She was
21 my personal assistant. She was able -- she would do
22 anything I would ask her to do as regards to my
23 travel, whatever. But she was -- she couldn't help
24 me with Ellmax. She didn't know people to place
25 them on board. If I directed her to get me on A
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2 flight or something that may have been in relation
3 to business opportunity, she would do that.
Q. What is her current address?
S A. 1 don't know.
6 Q. Do you know what state she lives in?
A. I think she's in Detroit somewhere.
Q. Back in 2016, did she live at 116 East 65th
9 Street, New York, New York?
10 A. No.
11 Q. Where did she live in 2016?
12 A. Somewhere in New Jersey.
13 MR. FALLER: Directing your attention to
14 Plaintiff's Exhibit 2 for identification.
15 Q. Is that the 2015 Florida Limited Liability
16 Company for Ellmax, LLC.?
17 A. Again, I have not seen this before. I have
18 to take -- I haven't seen this before. So I'm
19 assuming that's what it is.
20 Q. Were regular annual reports filed by
21 Ellmax, LLC.?
22 A. Again, that would have been my accountant,
23 I would assume, would have a list of what is
24 expected or legally.
25 Q. Who was your accountant back then?
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2 A. I am sorry, I don't recall the name at this
3 moment.
4 Q. What was the name of the company that you
5 worked for?
6 A. I don't recall. I am sorry.
7 Q. Was he in New York or Florida?
8 A. In New York, I believe.
9 Q. Was there a reason you chose a Florida
10 Limited Liability Company for Ellmax, LLC.?
11 A. I don't know why. I don't remember.
12 Q. Were you also a Florida resident back in
13 2016?
14 A. I lived in Florida at certain times since I
15 moved to the states.
16 Q. What is your address in Florida?
17 A. I lived in a number of different places in
18 Florida.
19 Q. Do you own real estate in Florida?
20 A. No.
21 Q. At any point did you maintain a residence
22 in Florida?
23 A. I've never owned a home in Florida.
24 Q. Did you rent the same residence in Florida?
25 A. No.
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2 Q. How many months of the year, let's say, it
3 2016 did you reside in Florida?
4 A. Probably none.
5 Q. How much time did you spend in Florida .L:1
6 2016?
7 A. Probably, I don't know, less than -- I
S don't know. A few weeks. Two weeks, three weeks.
9 Q. What about in 2015?
10 A. I don't remember the dales. Maybe the
11 same.
12 Q. The principal place of business in 2015 is
13 still listed as 116A East 65th Street, New York, New
14 York.
15 A. That would have all been the address for
16 convenience.
17 Q. That address was never changed was it?
18 A. I don't believe so.
19 Q• Was the address of Ellmax always the same
20 from the time it was formed until up the time you
21 say you dissolved it?
22 A. As far as I can recall, yes.
23 MR. FALLEK: 1 am directing your attention
24 to Plaintiff's Exhibit 3 for identification.
25 Q. Do you recognize this document?
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2 A. Sorry.
3 Q. Plaintiff's 3 for identification, do you
4 recognize this to be the 2016 Florida Limited
5 Liability Company Annual Report for Ellmax, LLC.?
6 A. Again, I have never seen this. I will just
7 take your word that that's what that is.
8 Q. In 2016, was the principal place of
9 business for Ellmax, LLC. also listed as 116 East
10 65th Street, New York, New York?
11 A. Again, that was the address of convenience.
12 The business is wherever I am, but yes.
13 MR. FALLEK: Move to strike the
14 nonresponsive portion of the answer.
15 Q. Did Ellmax, LLC. ever have a different
16 principal place of business?
17 A. I don't believe I had any other address of
18 convenience than the one it has listed.
19 MR. FALLEK: Move to strike as
20 nonresponsive.
21 Q. Is the answer no?
22 A. No.
23 Q. No it never had any other principal place
24 of business?
25 A. No.
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2 Q. What were the assets of Ellmax, LLC.?
3 A. it didn't have any assets.
4 Q. Who were the members of the limited
5 liability company?
6 A. I believe I was the sole member.
7 Q. Did Ellmax, LLC. have any employees?
8 A. No.
Q. I believe you said the last job you had was
10 for Ellmax, LLC.?
11 A. Last work that I did as you asked.
12 Q. Before you worked for Ellmax, LLC., whom do
13 you work for?
14 A. I was unemployed.
15 Q. During what period of time was that?
16 A. I believe around 2000 -- about 2009 or '08.
17 Q• When did you first move to the United
18 States to live here continuously?
19 A. 1991.
20 Q. Where did you live in 1991?
21 A. I was traveling around the states.
22 Q. Was 116 East 65th Street, New York, New
23 York, the first residence that you had in the United
24 States?
25 MR. FALLER: You seemed confused. I will
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2 ask it a different way.
3 Q. Where was the first place you lived in the
4 United States?
5 A. I rented.
6 Q. Where did you rent?
7 A. I rented a place on 59th and Seventh.
8 Q• Did there come a time period where you
9 purchased a residence?
10 A. Yes.
11 Q. When was that?
12 A. When I purchased 116, I believe, in 2000.
13 Q. Before 116 was purchased, did you form 116
14 East 65th Street, LLC.?
15 A. No. I don't believe so, no.
16 MR. FALLEK: Could we have this marked as
17 Plaintiff's Exhibit 4 for identification.
18 (Whereupon, the document dated 4/5/19, was
19 received and marked as Plaintiff's Exhibit 4 for
2C identification, as of this date, by the
21 reporter.)
22 Q. Before we get to this document. Was there
23 a time period in which =MI lived in
24 Manhattan?
25 A. I don't know.
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2 Q. You said she was your personal assistant.
3 A. I did.
4 (2• Was that a remote job or did she live with
5 you or lived nearby?
6 A. She never lived in my home. I can't
7 recall. Wherever she lived I don't know. I'm
8 sorry.
9 Q. Was it a full-time or part-time job?
10 A. It was full-time.
11 Q. How would you communicate with her?
12 A. Via, email, text, or phone.
13 Q. During what time period, if any, did she
14 live in New York?
15 A. I don't know if she lived in New York. She
16 worked for me, and she turned up for work for me.
17 But, I don't know where she lived.
10 Q. Did you have somebody else, a different
19 personal assistant for you, in Manhattan?
20 A. No.
21 MR. FALLEK: I'm going to show you what was
22 marked as Plaintiff's Exhibit 4 for
23 identification. I ask you to take a look at
24 that document.
25 Q. Do you recognize this document to be a
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2 document from the New York State Department of State
3 regarding 116 East 65th Street, LLC.?
4 A. I have never seen this document before.
5 Q. Could you please take a look at it.
MR. CUOMO: I think she has.
7 A. I've looked at it.
8 Q. Did you form 116 East 65th Street, LLC.
9 A. Yes.
10 Q. When was it formed?
11 A. Some time in 2000.
12 Q. Is that prior to the time that 116 East
13 65th Street was purchased?
14 A. I don't know the timing of it when it was
15 purchased. I don't know when the time was for the
16 creation of it and the purchase of the house. I'm
17 sorry.
18 Q. Is 116 East 65th Street a limited liability
19 company?
20 A. I believe so.
21 Q. Is it a New York Limited Liability Company?
22 A. I don't remember where it is limited. It
23 says, New York.
24 Q. Who are the members of that LLC?
25 A. I believe I'm the sole member.
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Q. Was there ever any other members?
A. I don't believe so.
4 Q. Could you tell me who Darren Indyke, Esq.
5 at 475 West Avenue, New York, New York is? Could
6 you tell me who he is?
7 A. He is a lawyer.
8 Q. What is his connection with the LLC?
9 A. He helped create it.
10 Q. Did you hire him to create it?
11 A. I don't recall how it went down exactly.
12 How he came to do it. But, he was the lawyer. And
13 he helped create it.
14 Q. Was he referred to you by somebody?
15 A. He worked for a friend of mine.
16 Q. Who is that?
17 A. A gentlemen called Mr. Epstein.
18 Q. Sorry?
19 A. A gentleman.
20 Q. Is that Jeffrey Epstein?
21 A. Yes.
22 Q. What was the principal place of business of
23 116 East 65th Street, LLC.?
24 A. well, 116 didn't do any business.
25 Q. What was the principal place business? Do
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2 you maintain books for it?
3 A. I don't have any paperwork regarding that.
4 1 don't have. It would have been with the
S accountant or whoever was dealing with it then.
Q. Were there annual returns that were
prepared for that LLC?
8 A. I'm sure there were.
9 Q. Did you sign them?
10 A. I must have.
11 Q. Where are they?
12 A. So long ago I have no idea. I don't have
13 that.
14 Q. Did there come a time period where 116 East
15 65th Street, LLC. purchased the building at 116 East
16 65th Street, New York, New York?
17 A. I am sorry, I don't know the -- I think
18 50.
19 Q. Who owned your building?
20 A. 116 East 65th Street, LLC.
21 Q. When was it purchased by them?
22 A. Like I have said, some time in 2000.
23 MR. CUOMO: Before you ask another question
24 I just want to talk to my client for a moment.
25 (A short recess was taken.)
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2 Q. Did you review any documents today before
3 testifying?
4 A. Only what was filed with the court with my
lawyer.
Q. Did you read or review your affidavit
7 before testifying today?
8 A. I did review?
MR. FALLEK: Mark this as Plaintiff's
10 Exhibit five.
11 (Whereupon, the affidavit was received and
12 marked as Plaintiff's Exhibit 5 for
13 identification, as of this date, by the
14 reporter.)
15 MR. FALLEK: I will show you what was
16 marked as Plaintiff's Exhibit 5 marked for
17 identification.
18 Q. I will ask if that is the affidavit that
19 you reviewed?
20 A. I'm going to read it to make sure.
21 Q. Take your time.
22 A. Is that okay?
23 Q. Sure. Did you have a chance to read it?
24 A. I have.
25 Q. In your affidavit, in Paragraph 9, you say
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2 that Ellmax, LLC. was a holding company when I
3 started in 2010 with the intention of using for any
4 consultation work that I may have done. What are
5 you referring to? What consultation work that I may
6 have done?
7 A. Like I have explained earlier. I advised
8 businesses or wanted to advise businesses in 2010 on
9 placing people on boards or on any other aspect of
10 business that would be relevant, conferences, and
11 providing speakers for conferences.
12 Q. You used the words "I may have done." Was
13 that work you already had done or going to do?
14 A. That I was hoping to do.
15 Q. Were you one of the speakers or were you
16 looking for other speakers?
17 A. I have spoken, but I've never hired myselt
18 to speak.
19 Q. For Ellmax?
20 A. No. That would have been funny.
21 Q. You indicated also that you never took
22 deductions on your taxes as a home office. Did you
23 file income taxes in 2015?
24 A. I did.
25 Q. What taxes did you file in the United
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2 States?
3 A. Whatever I needed to file.
4 Q. Did you file a New York State Income Tax?
5 A. I'm sure I did.
6 Q. Did you file Federal taxes in the Unites
7 States?
8 A. I'm sure I did.
9 Q. What about City taxes? Did you also file
10 those?
11 A. I'm sure I did.
12 Q. You also indicated in Paragraph 11, in 2010
13 when I started, you had said that you hired an
14 assistant to Ellmax, LLC's payroll in 2017. Who was
15 that?
16 A. That was Dana.
17 Q. Was that the same person that we spoke
18 about before?
19 A. Yes.
20 Q. That's
21 A. Yes.
22 Q. What location did she work out of other
23 than New Jersey?
24 A. I believe her home.
25 Q. Do you know if she worked out of her home
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2 any other years?
3 A. She worked. She was on call. She would
4 have done work from her home.
5 Q. What did she do for Ellmax, LLC.?
6 A. She didn't do any work for Ellmax. She
7 worked for me. She was my personal assistant. But
8 if I asked her to make a flight or something, then
9 it would have been.
10 MR. CUOMO: Just clarify. Are you asking
11 about 2017?
12 MR. FALLEK: Yes. She said added her in
13 2017 on Ellmax's payroll.
14 Q. Why did you add her to the payroll?
15 A. I misunderstood the question.
16 To shutdown the company. We restarted it
17 start to shut it down.
18 Q. Did she work for Ellmax prior to 2017?
19 A. No. She -- whatever -- Ellmax was dormant
20 from 2013 until I restarted to shut it down.
21 MR. FALLEK: Move to strike as not
22 responsive.
23 Q. You did file annual reports, did you not,
24 in 2014, '15, and '16 for Ellmax, LLC.?
25 A. Right. But, it was just, you know, to
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2 keep -- rather than going through the expense t'
3 shut it down. It's expensive to shut it down.
4 Q. so the answer is: No, you did file them
5 all those year?
6 A. It was filed, but it was dormant.
7 Q. Did you have to file a fee every year?
8 A. I'm sure I did.
9 Q. What is the address at 16 Island Avenue,
10 Suite 70, Miami Beach, Florida 33139?
11 A. That was a home that I rented for a short
12 while, and I stayed at the address.
13 Q. When did you rent it?
14 A. I don't recall the dates. 1 am sorry.
15 Q. Was it in the year 2014.
16 A. I honestly don't remember.
17 MR. FALLEK: I'm showing you what was
18 marked as Plaintiff's Exhibit 1 for
19 identification, which it dates back to 2014.
20 MR. CUOMO: She said she doesn't remember.
21 A. I'm sorry, I don't recall.
22 Q. In the year 2015 the address changed, is it
23 not, to New York, New York?
24 A. It has.
25 Q. Do you know where the articles of an
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2 organization are for 116 East 65th Street, LLC.?
A. I don't.
4 Q. Do you know who has them?
5 A. I don't.
Q. Do you know what the business purposes was
for forming 116 East 65th Street, LLC.?
A. I think it's a common practice to place
9 them as an LLC. I don't think there is anything
10 unusual about that.
:1 Q. Was that based on your accountant or a
12 legal advise or on your own?
13 A. I'm sure that was based on legal advise.
14 Q. Did you have a lawyer that formed it for
15 you?
16 A. You are asking things to go back over 20
17 years. I don't recall exactly how it went down.
18 Q. Did you utilize the services of a broker in
19 purchasing 116 East 65th Street?
20 A. I don't. remember.
21 Q. Did you utilize the services of a broker
22 when selling 116 East 65th Street?
23 A. 1 did.
24 Q. Was that Douglas Elliman?
25 A. It was.
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2 Q. How much did 116 East 65th Street, LLC.
3 pay for the purchase of 116 East 65th Street in
4 Manhattan?
S A. Around, I think it was, $6,000,000. Around
6 6,000,000.
7 Q. Could you describe the building to me at
A 116 East 65th Street?
9 A. What do you mean?
10 Q. Let's start with, how many floors did the
11 building have?
12 A. Five.
13 Q. That includes the roof and the basement?
14 A. No. I think the basement would be six. If
15 you count the roof then seven.
16 Q. What was the square footage of the
17 building?
18 A. Around 6,500 or 6000 (sic). Something like
19 that.
20 Q. How many bedrooms did it have?
21 Four.
22 Q. How many bathrooms?
23 A. Four.
24 Q. Was the lot a 25 foot wide lot?
25 A. Yes.
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2 Q. Was this a limestone building?
3 A. Yes.
4 Q. Did it have an elevator?
5 A. Yes.
6 0. Was there a separate entrance that the
7 building had? How many entrances did 116 East 65th
8 Street have?
9 A. Two.
10 MR. FALLEK: I will show you a document :
11 will have marked as Plaintiff's Exhibit 6.
12 (Whereupon, the copy of a photograph was
13 received and narked as Plaintiff's Exhibit 6 for
14 identification, as of this date, by the
15 reporter.)
16 Q. Do you recognize what is shown in
17 Plaintiff's Exhibit 6 for identification?
18 A. I do.
19 Q. What do you recognize that to be?
20 A. 116 East 65th Street.
21 Q. Is that the building that was purchased by
22 116 East 65th Street, LLC.?
23 A. Yes.
24 Q. Does that document or that photograph
25 fairly and accurately show the way the building
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2 appeared back on September 9th of 2015?
3 A. I suppose.
4 Q. Was there a tree or tree well in front of
5 your premises?
6 A. Yes.
Q. Was a portion of the tree well was part '
your premises and your neighbor's premises?
A. No.
10 Q. Do you recognize the metal cage surrounding
11 the tree well?
12 A. Yes.
13 Q. During the time period that 116 East 65th
14 Street owned the building, did you or anybody on
15 your behalf make any changes to the tree or the tree
16 well?
17 A. This tree well that you demonstrate here in
18 this photograph, is the tree and the tree well
19 belonging to my neighbor at 114 East 65th.
20 Q. Is a portion of that tree going on your
21 property?
22 A. I don't recall, but that's the address of
23 the tree.
24 Q. Did you ever discuss the tree or tree well
25 with your neighbor?
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2 A. No.
3 Q. You said it's whose tree well?
4 A. Diandra.
5 Q. Diandra Douglas?
6 A. Yes.
7 Q. Did they live there before you moves
8 there?
9 A. No.
10 Q. When did they move in?
11 A. I don't recall exactly. Maybe 2005 or '06.
12 Something like that.
13 Q. At any time did you sweep the leaves from
14 that tree on that portion of the sidewalk in front
15 of your premises?
16 A. Can you repeat the question?
17 Q. Was there anytime that you lived at 116
18 East 65th street where you maintained the tree that
19 we are referring to in the photograph?
20 A. Diandra's tree?
21 Q. Yes.
22 A. No.
23 Q. Did you ever trim the branches?
24 A. No.
25 Q. Did anybody on your behalf ever water the
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2 tree?
3 A. No.
4 Q. Did you do anything or have anyone do
5 anything around the tree well?
6 A. Around Diandra's tree?
Q. Yes.
8 A. No.
9 Q. Did you ever discuss the tree with Diandra?
10 A. No.
11 Q. The sidewalk that is depicted in the
12 picture, were any changes made to that sidewalk by
13 you or anybody on your behalf during the time period
14 that 116 East 65th Street owned the premises?
15 MR. CUOMO: Hold on a second. From that
16 photograph can you tell?
17 MR. FALLEK: I'm not talking about that.
18 I'm just directing her to the sidewalk.
19 MR. CUOMO: Hear me out. I have a question
20 for you. Are you representing that all of the
21 sidewalk in that photograph depicted is Exhibit
22 6 is in front of 116 East 65th Street or are you
23 asking her part from that photograph in front of
24 116 East 65th Street?
25 MR. FALLEK: Let's first ask about the
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2 photograph.
3 Q. Was any work done by you or anybody to that
area that is shown in the photograph?
S A. I've never directed anybody to do any work
6 on the sidewalk.
7 Q. Did anybody do any work to the sidewalk
8 during that time period that you lived there?
MR. CUOMO: Again, note my objection. Are
10 you talking about the sidewalk in front of her
11 home or the sidewalk that is in the photograph,
12 which could be in front of multiple buildings?
13 MR. FALLEK: The sidewalk in the
14 photograph.
15 A. I don't remember work being done passed me
16 on the sidewalk. But, there was work, I believe,
17 done around Diandra's tree. But, I don't know.
18 Q. What was the work done around Diandra's
19 tree?
20 A. That tree is a big tree. It has a lot of
21 roots. And I think there was some work done around
22 her tree and her tree well, but I don't recall.
23 0. Do you remember when that was?
24 A. I don't.
25 Q. Was it before September 9, 2015?
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2 A. Any work would have been done around that
3 tree would have been done prior to that, yes.
4 Q. The work you are referring to, was that
S done to the tree, the tree well, or the sidewalk?
6 A. 1 apologize, I just don't know. I don't
7 know.
8 Q• Besides the Diandra did anybody else live
9 in the house during that time period?
10 A. Any house?
11 Q. Diandra's house.
12 A. I don't know who lived with Diandra.
13 Q. We are referring to 114 East. 65th Street?
14 A. 114, yes.
15 Q. Did you ever talk to her about the
16 condition of the tree, the tree roots, or th.
17 sidewalks prior to September 9, 2015?
18 A. No.
19 Q. Did anybody ever complain to you about the
20 condition of the sidewalk in front of your premises
21 before September 9th of 2015?
22 A. No.
23 Q. Did you ever receive any violations from
24 the City of New York or anybody regarding the
25 condition of the sidewalk in front of your premises?
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2 A. No.
3 Q. Who lived in 116 East 65th Street on
4 September 9, 2015?
A. Excuse me?
Q. Are you married?
A. I was not married at the time of this.
8 Q. Do you have any children?
9 A. No.
10 Q. Did you have any help that lived in the
11 house with you?
12 A. No.
13 Q. Did you have a housekeeper?
14 A. I did have a housekeeper, yes.
15 Q. Live out or live in?
16 A. Out.
17 Q. How many days a week did she come to your
18 home?
19 A. She came every day during the week.
20 Q. That was Monday through Friday?
21 A. Correct.
22 Q. What was her name?
23 A. Maritsa.
24 MR. CUOMO: Just to be clear now, you are
25 talking about 2015?
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2 MR. FALLEN: Yes, back in September of
3 2O15.
4 A. That's how I answered your question.
5 Q. Maritsa worked for you five days back then?
6 A. Yes.
7 Q. What were her duties and responsibilities?
8 A. She was my housekeeper. So she would keep
9 the house clean, and she would do the laundry. And
10 She would Hoover. She would help me cleanup in the
11 kitchen after I made a mess.
12 MR. CUOMO: I have to break in there.
13 (A discussion was held off the record.)
14 Q. Who was responsible to take care of the
15 outside of the home specifically the sidewalk in
16 front of your home?
17 A. I don't. But, I didn't designate anybody
18 to clean the sidewalk or whatever.
19 Q. Did somebody maintain the sidewalk in front
20 of the home back in 2015?
21 A. No.
22 Q. Who would sweep the sidewalks?
23 A. I don't know.
24 Q. If there was snow, who would shovel the
25 sidewalk?
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2 A. I'm not sure.
3 Q. Did you hire an outside contractor or
4 gardener or a person to maintain the exterior?
5 A. No.
6 Q. Did you enter the premises through the
front door every time you went in and out?
8 A. Sometimes mostly.
0 Q. How else would you go in the house other
10 than the entrance that is shown in the photo in
11 front of you?
12 A. You could go in the other entrance.
13 Obviously, I mostly used the front entrance.
14 Q. You said there were two entrances.
15 A. Yes.
16 MR. FALLEK: Could we have this marked.
77 (Whereupon, the copy of a photograph was
18 received and marked as Plaintiff's Exhibit 7 for
19 identification, as of this date, by the
2C reporter.)
21 MR. FALLEK: 1 will show you a photograph,
22 which we marked as Plaintiff's Exhibit 7 to:
23 identification.
24 Q. Have you seen this photograph before?
25 A. I have not.
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2 Q. Do you recognize what is shown in that
3 photograph?
4 A. I do. But, I don't know what this bag is
5 (indicating).
6 Q• That makes two of us.
7 MR. CUOMO: Just notice the bag hanging
from the door handle.
G Q. Separate from the bag, do you recognize --
IC A. I do.
11 Q. Is that a door to the premises of 116 East.
12 65th Street, New York, New York?
13 A. It appears to be, yes.
14 Q. How do you refer to this entrance? Is it
15 the service entrance, business entrance?
16 A. Separate entrance.
17 Q. Where does this entrance lead?
18 A. To the house.
19 Q. Have you ever received or seen the
20 Certificate Of Occupancy?
21 A. Have I?
22 Q. Seen the Certificate Of Occupancy for the
23 house?
24 A. I don't recall seeing it.
25 Q. Is the building a two-family residence?
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2 A. I believe it is valued, but I think it has
3 a designation as a two-family residence or however
4 you say that.
S 0. Did you have a dog at the time that you
6 lived in the building?
A. Yes.
8 0• Was that Beware Of Dog sign put up by you
9 or someone on your behalf?
10 A. 1 put it up.
11 0. Who would walk the dog when you lived there
12 back in 2015?
:3 A. I walked my dog. Dana walked my dog or
:4 whoever.
15 0. Did you reg.-Ile/1y walk the dog yourself?
16 A. Yes.
:7 0. Is there a back entrance to the building?
:8 A. NO.
19 0. :n order to walk the dog, would you have to
20 go out the front door or the side door?
21 A. You could go out either entrance.
22 Q. Would you go in and out one of those doors
23 every day?
24 A. Yes.
25 Q. Is there a buzzer or intercom system for
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2 that entrance?
3 A. I don't think so.
Q. What about for the front door, the door
that is shown in Exhibit 6 for identification?
A. There was a buzzer for that door.
Q. How many buzzers were there?
8 A. Just one I think.
9 Q. Where would it buzz in the interior --
10 A. Buzz to the telephone.
11 Q. To the telephone?
12 A. Yes.
13 Q. Where is the telephone kept?
14 A. Telephone everywhere. All the telephones
15 would go. You couldn't fail to hear the doorbell.
16 Q. Who would answer the door? Would that be
17 you or someone else?
18 A. Whoever got to it first.
19 Q. Who would that be? Would you say Maritsa?
20 A. Typically me or Dana or Maritsa, whoever.
21 Q. Were there times when Dana was in the house
22 back in September of 2015?
23 A. Yes.
24 Q. What about in August of 2015, were there
25 also times where she would be in the house?
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2 A. Yes.
3 MR. FALLEK: Could I have this marked.
4 ;Whereupon, the diagram of the house was
5 received and marked as Plaintiff's Exhibit 8 for
6 identification, as of this date, by the
7 reporter.)
8 (Whereupon, the diagram of the house was
9 received and marked as Plaintiff's Exhibit 9 for
10 identification, as of this date, by the
11 reporter.)
12 MR. FALLEK: I will show you what was
13 marked as Plaintiff's Exhibit 8.
14 Q. Do you recognize what has been marked as
15 Plaintiff's Exhibit 8 for identification?
16 A. Yes.
17 Q. When you sold the premises, 116 East 65th
18 Street, is this a diagram that was used in order to
19 sell the home?
20 A. I think it was, yes.
21 Q. Do you recognize what is depicted in that
22 diagram?
23 A. Yes.
24 Q. What is it?
25 A. It says office.
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Q. What is here generally?
A. Sorry.
I Q. What is depicted in the diagram?
S A. The house.
6 Q. Does it fairly and accurately show the
7 layout of the house, 116 East 65th Street?
8 A. Yes.
9 Q. Did the home have an office in it?
10 A. It was called an office.
11 Q. How big was that area labeled as an
12 office?
13 A. It says here 17.3 feet, 17 feet 3 inches x
14 8 feet 3 inches.
15 Q. Were there computers kept in that office?
16 A. There was a computer in that office.
17 Q. What kind of computer was it?
18 A. I think it was a Mack.
19 Q. Was it a laptop or desktop?
20 A. I think it was a desk top. It could have
21 been a laptop. I don't know.
22 Q. Who owned that desktop?
23 A. Well, if it was a desk top it would have
24 been me. Actually I think it was laptop in 2015.
25 Q. Back in September of 2015, was there a desk
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2 also in that room?
3 A. Yes.
4 Q. was there a copy machine?
5 A. There may have been.
6 Q. Was there a fax machine?
7 A. No.
8 Q. What other equipment was kept in that
9 office?
10 A. No equipment. I can't remember if it was a
11 laptop or a desktop. Dana -- that's where Dana
12 generally sits.
13 Q. Was there any other office equipment kept
14 in their?
15 A. No.
16 Q. Was there a door to that room?
17 A. Yes. There was also a coffee station.
18 There was a little coffee sink, a little fridge in
19 there for access in the garden. It's like a garden
2O room. You could get a drink if you were sitting in
21 the garden back here.
22 MR. FALLEK: I will show you what was
23 marked as Plaintiff's Exhibit 9 for
24 identification. This is just a blow-up or
25 larger version of Plaintiff's Exhibit 8 for
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Identification.
3 Q. Does this fairly and accurately show the
4 layout of the building at 116 East 65th Street as it
5 existed back in September of 2015?
6 A. Yes.
7 Q. Was there any portions or rooms in this
6 building rented out or separated?
9 A. No.
10 Q. Was anything cordoned off?
11 A. No.
12 Q. What was kept in the basement of the
13 building?
14 A. Laundry mostly.
15 Q. What was on the roof of the building?
16 A. Nothing. AC I think.
17 Q. On the first floor there :s also a library?
16 That's what it says.
19 Q. Did you utilize that room as a library?
20 A. No. It was more like 7 use it to watch TV.
21 There was big screen in that room.
22 Q. Was there a room in that building where you
23 stored business records?
24 A. No.
25 Q. Where did you store your business records
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2 back in 2015?
3 A. I didn't have business records.
4 Q. Where did you keep the records for Climax,
5 1.
6 A. 1 use to move my -- I had a file cabinet
7 wherever I was sitting. I had a filing cabinet.
9 Q. Where would that be kept? On what floor in
9 the building?
10 A. It moved. I frequently moved my desk.
11 couldn't decide where I would sit. There was a
12 period of time in the dining room became a place
13 where I would sit and the library. When I moved my
14 desk my little filing system cop come with me.
15 Q. Did you conduct business out of 116 East
16 65th street?
17 A. No.
18 Q. Where did you conduct any business for
19 Ellmax, LLC.?
20 A. I go to any client and I would go to their
2: office.
22 Q. Tell me about your Terramar Projects?
23 A. It's a not-for-profit based on the ocean.
24 Q. When did you form the Terramar Project?
25 A. I think it was in 2011 or 2012.
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2 Q. That would be have been before September 9,
3 2015?
4 A. Yes.
5 Q. Who is the president of the Terramar
6 Project, Inc.?
7 A. I am.
8 Q. Is that a New York Corporation?
9 A. I don't remember where it was filed. If
10 you have the paperwork in front of you and it says
11 New York then yes.
12 MR. FALLEK: I will show you a document
13 marked as Plaintiff's Exhibit 10. Let's mark it
14 first.
15 THE WITNESS: Could I use the bathroom?
16 MR. FALLEK: Yes. Whenever you need a
17 break just ask.
18 (Whereupon, the 2012 tax document was
19 received and marked as Plaintiff's Exhibit 10
20 for identification, as of this date, by the
21 reporter.)
22 (A short recess was taken.)
23 MR. FALLEK: I will show you what was
24 marked as Plaintiff's Exhibit 10 for
25 identification.
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2 C. Do you recognize this document to be the
3 2012 tax return for Terramar?
4 A. I have not seen this.
S Q. Take a look at it.
6 A. It appears to be.
7 Q. Okay. Does your signature appear on the.
8 document?
0 A. Yes.
10 Q. Is that your signature?
11 A. Yes.
12 MR. CUOMO: Referring to the bottom of the
13 first page of the document?
14 MR. FALLER: Yes.
15 0. Referring to the bottom portion next to the
16 yellow label of Plaintiff's Exhibit 10. Directing
17 your attention to Page 8 of the tax return. Do you
18 see this page?
19 A. I do.
20 Q. Did you indicate in this tax return that
21 you worked 60 hours a week on the Terramar Project?
22 A. Yes.
23 C. Did you have other officers at that time
24 that worked for the Terramar Project?
25 A. Well, Dana done 23 hours.
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2 Q. Is that accurate?
3 A. I'm sure it is.
4 Q. Who are the other people that you have
5 listed?
6 A. Larry Kevin.
Q. Who was he?
B A. He was the director.
0 Q. You have him one hour, one hour a week?
10 A. It says average hours per week. One hour a
II week.
12 Q. What did he do for the Terramar Project?
13 A. He gave advise as to how to best practices
14 for charity.
15 Q. What about Ariadne Calvo-Platero, what did
16 that person do?
17 A. She again gave advise as to how far
18 Terramar could realize its goals.
19 Q. Are there any other employees for the
20 Terramar Project that are not listed on the tax
21 return?
22 A. The Terramar Project didn't have any
23 employees.
24 Q. These are merely the officers of the
25 company?
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A. Yes.
Q. How did they get paid?
4 A. They didn't get paid.
Q. Were there any salaried employees?
A. No.
7 MR. FALLEK: Mark this as 11.
8 (Whereupon, the 2013 Tax Return was
9 received and marked as Plaintiff's Exhibit 11
10 for identification, as of this date, by the
11 reporter.)
12 Q. In 2012 the principal place of business
13 Terramar Project was located at 116 East 65th
14 Street, New York, New York?
15 A. Again. That would be just an address of
16 convenience, but yes.
17 Q. In 2013, was the principal place of
18 business for the Terramar Project also listed at 11,
19 East 65th Street, New York, New York?
20 A. Yes.
21 Q. Directing your attention to, and not a
22 numbered paged, page 5 of the tax returns.
23 Is there a schedule of varies personnel
24 that worked or were officers for Terramar Project.
25 A. These are just all directors and none of
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2 them were renumerated. Nobody was paid. But,
3 Terramar Project did have work called contract
4 contractors who did do work for it. A contract
5 employee or contract person that worked for the
6 company is not the same as a regular employee. They
7 wouldn't come to work.
9 Q. Who was that?
9 A. I have had a number of -- I had a number of
10 different people. We also have one person who did
11 work for Terramar Project. They were always
12 offsite, because they would never come to work.
13 They would be remote.
14 0. Were there any contracting employees back
15 in 2015 for Terramar Project, Inc.?
16 A. There were, yes.
17 Q. Who were they?
18 A. One. I believe it was Robert Foos.
19 Q. In what position did he hold?
20 A. I think his official title was Director Of
21 Development.
22 Q. Does the additional data sheet indicate
23 that you were also working 60 hours a week for
24 Terramar Project back in 2013?
25 A. Yes.
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2 MR. FALLER: Mark this.
3 (Whereupon, the 2014 Tax Return was
4 received and marked as Plaintiff's Exhibit 12
5 for identification, as of this date, by the
6 reporter.)
7 MR. FALLEK: I will show you what was
marked as Plaintiff's Exhibit 12 for
identification.
10 Q. I'm asking you if you recognize this to be
11 the 2014 Tax Return for Terramar Project?
12 A. Again, I have not seen this document, but
13 actually it seems to be as you described it.
14 Q. At that time the principal place of
15 Terramar Project was at 116 East 65th Street, New
16 York, New York?
17 A. Again, it was just the address that we had
18 of convenience.
19 Q. Did you have another address for the
20 _erramar Project back in 2014?
2: A. No.
22 Q. What about in 2015, did it have any other
23 addresses?
24 A. No.
25 Q. Did it have any other places of business?
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A. No.
3 Q. Directing your attention to the second page
4 of this document. Again, are the officers of the
5 Terramar Project listed on this page?
6 A. Yes.
7 Q. Are you listed working 60 hours a week for
8 the Terramar Project?
9 A. Yes.
10 Q. Was there a 2015 Tax Return filed for the
11 Terramar Project?
12 A. I'm sure there was.
13 Q. Do you know where that?
14 A. T am sorry, I don't.
15 Q. Was it filed with New York State?
16 A. It would have been filed with whatever was
17 compliant and necessary for the paperwork.
18 0. Other than for generalities, do you know
19 where that tax return is?
20 A. No, I don't.
21 Q. Do you know who prepared it?
22 A. I am sorry, I don't recall.
23 Q. Was the accountant that prepared it Mark,
24 Paneth 6 Shron, LLP., 685 Third Avenue, New York,
25 New York 100017, as indicated on Plaintiff's Exhibit
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2 10?
3 A. It may have been.
Were they your accountants?
A. They were.
6 Q. Do they always file your personal tax
7 returns and the tax returns for the Terramar
8 Project?
9 A. They did.
10 Q. What about Ellmax, LLC., did they prepare
11 or file those tax returns for you?
12 A. I believe they did.
13 Q. Did you sign all those tax returns
14 yourself?
15 A. I did.
16 Q. On behalf of you personally, Ellmax, and
17 the Terramar Project?
18 A. Yes.
19 Q. How did you first become aware of this
20 accident?
21 A. I believe, as much as I can recall,
22 somebody rang the doorbell. And I had heard
23 somebody had alleged they fell outside on the
24 sidewalk.
25 Q. Was that on September 9, 2015?
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2 A. I guess. I don't remember the date. But,
3 yes.
4 Q. Did you answer the door yourself?
5 A. No.
6 Q. Who answered the door?
7 A. Either Maritsa or Dana. One of them did.
8 Q. What did they tell you?
9 A. They told me that somebody alleged that
10 they fell on the sidewalk.
11 Q. What did you do? Did you leave the house?
12 Did you walk outside and check on the person and see
13 what was going on?
14 A. No, I did not.
15 Q. Did you ever see the individual?
16 A. No. 7 believe by the time I knew about it,
17 I think he had already gone or left.
18 Q. How much time was it that lapsed between
19 the time they told you about it and when you went
20 out?
21 A. I don't remember. I am sorry.
22 Q. Did you do any investigation yourself?
23 A. Did you go in and look at the alleged place
24 where he fell afterwards subsequently.
25 Q. How did you know what the place was that
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2 you are saying that he complained of?
3 A. I think Dana mentioned to me where he or
4 she had fallen or claimed to have fallen.
5 Q. Did Dana offer any medical attention or
6 attention to him?
7 A. I don't know.
8 Q. Did she say whether she called an
9 ambulance?
10 A. I don't think she did. I don't know. I
11 think by the time she -- as much as I can recall
12 there was an ambulance that was called. And I think
13 she told me there was an ambulance that was called
14 and that he was going away in an ambulance.
15 Q. Did you see the ambulance arrive?
16 A. No.
17 Q. Did you see him on the sidewalk after she
18 told you about the accident?
19 A. No.
20 Q. After the accident occurred, did you or
21 anybody on your behalf make any changes or repairs
22 to the sidewalk in front of your home?
23 A. No.
24 MR. FALLEK: Can we have this collectively
25 marked.
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2 (Whereupon, the copies of photographs from
3 Plaintiff's Notice were received and marked as
4 Plaintiff's Exhibits 13A through 13E for
identification, as of this date, by the
6 reporter.)
7 Q. Before we get to the photos. When did 116
8 East 65th Street sell the building at 116 East 65th
9 Street?
10 A. It's a matter of record. You can check. I
11 think it was in April of 2016. Is that right?
12 I'm sorry, I don't recall. Something like
13 that. Whatever is the matter of record you will
14 have it.
15 Q. I'm directing your attention to Plaintiff's
16 Exhibit 5 for identification. Your own affidavit.
17 A. Yes.
18 Q. Does the affidavit indicate the date it was
19 sold?
20 A. Yes.
2: Q. When was it sold?
22 A. April 14, 2016.
23 Q. How many was it sold for?
24 A. 15 million and 50,000. Something like
25 that.
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2 Q. Before 116 East 65th Street purchased the
3 building, did you have an engineer doing an
4 inspection on the house and the exterior of the
house?
6 A. Before I bought it?
7 Q. Yes.
8 A. Sorry, I don't recall.
9 Q. Did you inspect the condition of the
10 sidewalk before you purchased it?
11 A. I don't recall looking at the sidewalk at
12 all.
13 MR. CUOMO: Are you asking just if she
14 inspected the sidewalk in 2000 before it was
15 purchased?
16 MR. FALLEK: Yes. At that time.
17 A. I don't recall ever looking at the
18 sidewalk.
19 MR. FALLEK: I'm going to show you what has
20 been marked as Plaintiff's Exhibits 13A, B, C,
21 D, and E.
22 MR. CUOMO: I'm just curious. I got your
23 note with those photographs. Is there any
24 indication when those photographs were taken?
25 MR. FALLEK: Not in what I have exchanged
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with you, no. Off the record.
3 (A discussion was held off the record.)
Q. I just want you to take a look at the
3 pictures. Do you recognize what the building that
is shown in Plaintiff's Exhibit 13A?
A. This looks like 116 East 65th Street.
B Q. Does that show the front of the building?
A. A little bit of the front of the building.
10 Q. Does it also show tree roots in the
11 building?
12 A. It does.
13 Q. Do you see the
14 MR. CUOMO: Tree roots in the building?
15 MR. FALLEK: Yes, tree roots in front of
16 the building.
17 A. Yes. In this I do.
18 Q. Take a look at 138. Do you recognize that
19 photo?
20 A. I haven't seen those photos.
21 Q. I understand.
22 A. What are you asking me
23 Q. Do you recognize the upper portion of the
24 photo?
25 A. I do.
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Q. What does that show?
3 A. It shows the front entrance of 116
4 Q. Directing your attention to the next photc
5 13C. Could you tell me what that shows?
6 A. It looks like the tree in front of
7 Diandra's house.
8 Q. Does it also show the tree well or the
9 metal gate around the tree?
10 A. I does.
11 Q. Was that metal grate around the tree was
12 that changed or altered in any way from the time
13 period you lived there?
14 A. I don't remember. I don't know. I don't
15 know. I am sorry. I can't tell from this picture.
16 Q. Could you tell me what is shown in
17 Plaintiff's Exhibit 13D?
18 A. It looks like a sidewalk with tree roots.
19 Q. Do you recognize the metal fence and
20 grating?
21 A. I think that's the metal fence in front of
22 114 and 116 East 65th Street.
23 Q. Did you understand that to be what was the
24 dividing line between the two properties?
25 A. Yes.
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2 Q. Do you recognize what is shown in the last
3 photo marked as Plaintiff's 13E?
4 A. It's a tree well and tree roots.
5 Q. Is that the same tree well?
6 A. I don't know how to answer that. I can't
7 tell.
B Q. That's it. I just want to check my notes.
9 A. Could I take a look at this first?
10 Q. Sure.
11 MR. CUOMO: Check away
12 Q. Back in 2015, did you have an office in
13 place outside of 116 East 65th Street?
14 A. I didn't have an office at 116 East 65th
15 Street. 7 have a place where I would sit with my
16 computer. That's the same whether I am in a hotel
17 room. I am mobile. Wherever 7 am is where I work.
18 MR. FALLEK: I will ask the question again.
19 If you could just answer.
20 Q. Did you maintain an office, a physical
21 office, outside 116 East 65th Street, back in
22 September of 2015?
23 A. No.
24 0. Did you pay rent for any office outside of
25 the building, 116 East 65th Street, to maintain an
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2 office?
3 A. No.
4 MR. FALLEN: I have no further questions.
5 MR. CUOMO: I just have a few.
6 EXAMINATION BY
7 MR. CUOMO:
8 Q. Afternoon Ms. Maxwell. How are you?
9 A. Good, thanks.
10 Q. Before it was mentioned that the house at
11 116 East 65th Street was designated as a two-family
12 home.
13 A. I think in the paperwork it has two-family
14 home.
15 Q. When it was purchased in 2000, do you
16 recall if you purchased it using 116 East 65th
17 Street, LLC.?
18 A. I believe I did.
19 Q. Were you the sole member of 116 East 65th
20 Street, LLC.?
21 A. Yes.
22 Q. Were you advised either by a lawyer or an
23 accountant to purchase the home through an LLC?
24 A. I don't recall, but I'm sure I was.
25 Q. At the time that the home was purchased,
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2 was it being used as a two-family home?
3 A. I don't recall.
4 Q. To your mind, was the home you had
5 purchased was it set up as a two-family home?
6 A. No.
7 Q. Was it set up as a single-family home?
A. Yes.
9 Q. From that point in 2000 until you sold it,
10 on April 14, 2016, did you use it as a one-family
11 home?
12 A. Yes.
13 Q. You never rented out any portion of that
14 home to any other family or any other resident?
15 A. No.
16 Q. Now, there was some discussion with an
17 office in the house, as listed on the diagram, that
18 was used to help sell the home. Do you recall that
19 a few moments ago?
20 A. Yes.
21 Q. Was that office designated for use solely
22 by either the Terramar Project or Ellmax?
23 A. No.
24 Q. Did that office exist in the home when you
25 bought it?
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2 A. No.
3 Q. Did the room exist in the home?
4 A. Yes.
5 Q. At some point you put a desk and computer
6 in there?
7 A. Yes.
8 Q. Prior to, say, 2010, did the office exist?
9 A. I think so.
10 Q. Prior to 2010 what did you use the office
11 for?
12 A. It was the place where the dogs come to get
13 fed, and where you could stage food and drinks for
14 the garden.
15 Q. were there any place in the home, at 116
16 East 65th Street, that was reserved for use by
17 employees either by Ellmax or the Terramar
18 A. No.
19 Q. Now, you mentioned that the Ellmax was
20 dormant after 2013. What do you mean by dormant?
21 A. I wasn't performing any work.
22 Q. It was still an actual LLC?
23 A. Yes.
24 Q. Some time in 2017 you kind of woke it up
25 just to dissolve it?
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2 A. Yes.
3 Q. Between 2013 and 2017, is it correct, that
4 you did no business for the Ellmax, LLC.?
5 A. No.
6 Q. Between 2010 and 2013 when you did business
7 with Ellmax, did any of your clients or potential
clients ever come to the home to do business?
9 A. No.
10 Q. Did you ever entertain anybody from the
11 general public with respect to Ellmax between 2010
12 and 2013 in the home?
13 A. No.
14 Q. Did Ellmax sell any products of any kind?
15 A. No.
16 Q. Did you ever offer for sale through Climax
17 any products out of your home?
18 A. No.
19 was there any retail space in your home?
20 A. No.
21 Q. Was there any wholesale space in your home?
22 A. No.
23 Q. Between 2000 and 2016, when you sold the
24 property, was it essentially a primary residence?
25 A. Yes.
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2 Q. When in town is that where you would sleep?
3 A. Yes.
4 Q. You had your master bedroom in the house at
116 East 65th Street?
6 A. Yes.
Q. That was all the time between 2000 thru
2016?
9 A. Yes.
10 Q. With respect to the Terramar Project, did
11 you ever collect or have you ever collected any
12 salary as the president of the Terramar Project?
13 A. No.
14 Q. Have you received any remuneration of any
15 kind from the Terramar Project for your service for
16 that not-for-profit entity?
17 A. No.
18 Q. Is there any place in the home, at 116 East
19 65th Street, that is set aside for use solely by the
20 Terramar Project?
21 A. No.
22 Q. Did you ever take any tax deductions on
23 your personal income taxes relative to a home office
24 that was for use by Ellmax or the Terramar Project
25 or any other commercial entity between 2010 and
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2 2015?
3 A. No.
4 Q. That office that we Calked about off the
5 garden, could you use that for any personal
6 purpose?
7 A. Yes.
B Q. If you wanted to sit down and type out
9 letter to somebody, could you use that office if it
10 was a personal matter?
11 A. Yes.
12 Q. Were you restricted in anyway for using
13 that small portion of your home for any personal
14 issue?
15 A. No. It was where the dogs got fed. It was
16 there all the time.
17 Q. I'm showing you Plaintiff's Exhibit 6. Do
18 you recognize that photograph?
19 A. Yes.
20 Q. Does that photograph show portions of both
21 116 and 114 East 65th Street here in New York?
22 A. Yes.
23 Q. Does it show portions of the sidewalk that
24 are in front of both 114 and 116 East 65th Street?
25 A. Yes.
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2 Q. Does it show a tree well and a metal guard
3 around that tree well?
4 A. Yes.
5 Q. Is that tree well and that metal guard
6 around that tree well predominantly in front of 114
7 East 65th Street?
8 A. Yes.
9 0. At any time, from the year 2000 until you
10 sold the property in April of 2016, did you contract
11 for hire anyone to do any repairs to the sidewalk in
12 front of 116 East 65th Street?
13 A. No.
14 Q. Mr. Fallek showed you a series of
15 photographs marked as 13A through 13E depicting a
16 sidewalk and some type of construction or repair.
17 You have see those?
18 A. I did.
19 Q. At any time during your ownership or during
20 the LLC's ownership of 116 East 65th Street, did you
21 have any work done that would have resulted in
22 photographs like this being taken?
23 A. No.
24 Q. Did the Terramar Project ever host any
25 events or have any events at your home between when
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2 you started it up say in 2011 or whenever you
3 started it up through April 14, 2017, when you sold
4 the home?
5 A. No.
6 Q. Did you ever have any event where the
7 general public was invited to the home for any
a purpose for the Terramar Project such as a fund
9 raiser or anything like that?
10 A. No.
11 Q. With respect to Ellmax, I just want to make
12 an understanding. Is it fair to say the business of
13 Palmas was you either attempting to place board
14 members for companies or search for board members of
15 companies or both?
16 A. Yes.
17 Q. Would you also, from time to time, attempt
18 to source speakers for company functions?
19 A. Yes.
20 Q. You might also help them with the event
21 planning and venue selection for a company?
22 A. I didn't do event planning.
23 Q. Venue selection perhaps?
24 A. Yes.
25 Q. When you worked for a particular company,
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2 did you work with them at their premises?
3 A. Yes
4 Q. Did you ever had them come to your
S business, to 116 East 65th Street, to do that work?
6 A. No.
Q. During the period of time that Ellmax
functioned, did it generate revenue?
9 A. A small amount.
le Q. Did you ever collect a salary for Ellmax?
11 A. No.
12 Q. Were you ever disbursed any profits from
13 Ellmax?
14 A. No.
15 Q. What happened to the revenue that Ellmax
16 generated during that period of time, from 2010 to
17 2013?
18 A. It just was used to defer cost such as
19 traveling and travel mostly.
20 Q. What were the costs of travel related to
21 Ellmax where you were going?
22 A. Sorry, most of the companies I would have
23 worked for were from Los Angeles. I went to LA and
24 also to London multiple times.
25 Q. What was the reason you stopped working
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2 through or working as part of Ellmax in 2C13?
3 A. It wasn't going to succeed and it was just
4 useless. And I just stopped it.
5 Q. Ellmax between 2013 and the time you sold
6 the home in 2016 it had no revenue?
A. No.
Q. It did not operate?
9 A. No.
:0 Q. You listed the home at 116 East 65th Street
:1 as an address for both Terramar Project and Ellmax,
12 correct?
13 A. Just as an address of convenience.
14 Q. Was that to receive mail?
1S A. Yes.
16 Q. To have an address for the tax return?
17 A. Yes, or whatever.
18 Q. Other than those purposes, did 116 East
19 65th Street serve any purpose for the operations of
20 either Ellmax or the Terramar Project at any time
21 between 2010 and 2016 when you sold the home?
22 A. It was just my home. It was just my home.
23 That's where I stayed.
24 N.R. CUOMO: No further questions.
25 MR. FALLEK: I have one more thing. If you
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2 could mark this.
3 (Whereupon, the Real Project Transfer was
4 received and marked as Plaintiff's Exhibit 14
5 for identification, as of this date, by the
6 reporter.)
7 EXAMINATION BY
8 MR. FALLEK:
9 Q. I will show you a document, which was
10 marked as Plaintiff's Exhibit 14 for identification.
11 A. What is it?
12 Q. Is this the Real Property Transfer for the
13 sale of 116 East 65th Street?
14 A. Real property transfer is -- I don't know.
15 MR. CUOMO: If you don't know, you don't
16 know.
17 A. I'm sorry, I don't know. I have never seen
18 this docUment.
19 Q. Did you attend the closing when you sold
20 the building at 116 East 65th Street?
21 A. No.
22 Q. Did you authorize somebody to attend the
23 closing for you?
24 A. Yes.
25 Q. Who was that?
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2 A. The lawyer that is on that. I don't
3 remember his name. Monte Albers De Leon.
4 Q. Who is he? Is he your lawyer?
5 A. He was a lawyer that I used.
6 Q. Did you sign a Power Of Attorney permitting
7 him to execute documents on your behalf?
8 A. I don't remember. I must have.
9 Q. Was the property sold to a Mr. Greenberg?
10 A. I'm sorry, I don't remember the name of the
11 person who bought it. I'm sorry.
12 Q. Have you ever met Monte Albers De Leon?
13 A. I have.
14 Q. In what capacity?
15 A. He was a lawyer.
16 Q. Was he your lawyer for this matter?
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4 MR. FALLEK: No further questions. Thank
5 you.
6 (Whereupon, the proceedings were concluded
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4 I, Theresa Acosta, a Shorthand Reporter
5 and Notary Public of the State of New York, do
6 hereby certify;
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8 That, GHISLAINE MAXWELL, the witness whose
9 examination is hereinbefore set forth, was duly
10 sworn, and that such examination is a true record of
11 the testimony given by such witness.
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14 any of the parties to this action by blood or
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4:19,25 38:12 10:19 clients (2) 65:16 68:5
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12:14,14 54:12,18 31:22 64:12 22:8 26:14 confused (1)
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28:9 12:14 14:19 14:22 commercial... 72:16
books (1) 28:8,8 charge (I) 70:25 consultation...
26:2 buzz (2) 4:22 common (1) 28:4,5
born (I) 45:9.10 charity (1) 32:8 Cont'd (2)
10:3 buzzer (2) 53:14 communicat.. 4:2 5:2
bottom (2) 44:25 45:6 cheek (4) 23:11 contact (1)
52:12,15 buzzers (1) 59:12 61:10 companies (8) 15:7
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41:12 51:17 CPIS (4) 10:7,9,13,19 14:22 15:16 contracting...
broker (2) 3:7 4:3,10 5:3 10:21 16:16 17:16 55:14
32:18,21 cabinet (2) City (3) 18:4,10 20:5 contractor (1)
50:6,7
DEITZ Court Reporting... A Lexitas Company
800-628-0166
SONY_GP0_00324038
EFTA_00196723
EFTA01306489
FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 03/05/2020 12:59 Pt. INDEX NO. 159224/2016
NYSCEF DOC. NO. 113 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 03/05/2020
April 9, 2019
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42:3 creation (I) 78:14 44:3 67:16
contractors ... 24:16 days (2) desk (6) dissolve (I)
55:4 Cuomo (22) 40:17 41:5 47:20,23,25 68:25
controlled (1) 2:8,11 24:6 Dc (2) 50:10,14 dissolved (I)
4:4 26:23 30:10 77:3,12 68:5 19:21
convenience... 31:20 37:15 dealing (1) desktop (3) dividing (1)
15:18 19:16 37:19 38:9 26:5 47:19,22 64:24
20:11,18 40:24 41:12 December (1) 48:11 document (32)
54:16 56:18 43:7 52:12 10:6 Detroit (1) 13:4,8,12,17
75:13 62:13,22 decide (1) 17:7 13:19,22
cop (I) 63:14 65:1 50:11 Developmen... 15:9 19:25
50:14 66:5,7 75:24 deductions (2) 55:21 22:18,22
copies (2) 76:15 79:5 28:22 70:22 diagram (6) 23:24,25
61:2 81:18 curious (1) deed (1) 46:4,8.18,22 24:2,4 34:10
copy (6) 62:22 8:20 47:4 67:17 34:24 51:12
4:20 34:12 current (I) deemed (I) Diandra (5) 51:18 52:2,8
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69:3 75:12 44:13 45:20 11:9,10 18:17 20:15 44:5,8,11,13
cost (1) 45:21 48:11 degrees (2) 22:2 23:18 44:13,15,19
74:18 48:11 52:25 11:11,13 55:10 dogs (2)
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counsel (9) 25:4 Department ... directed (2) 7:5 9:21 62:3
1:20 3:4,18,24 data (1) 24:2 16:25 38:5 door (12)
4:7,13,19,21 55:22 depicted (4) directing (9) 42:7 43:8,11
4:25 date (17) 37:11,21 13:16 17:13 44:20,20
count (1) 10:5 13:6,10 46:21 47:4 19:23 37:18 45:4,4,6,16
33:15 13:14 22:20 depicting (I) 52:16 54:21 48:16 59:4,6
countries (1) 27:13 34:14 72:15 57:3 61:15 doorbell (2)
10:15 42:19 46:6 Depositions ... 64:4 45:15 58:22
country (3) 46:10 51:20 5:5 director (2) doors (1)
2:10 10:13 54:10 56:5 describe (I) 53:8 55:20 44:22
11:22 59:2 61:5,18 33:7 directors (5) dormant (4)
COUNTY (1) 76:5 described (I) 12:15 14:14 30:19 31:6
1:3 dated (8) 56:13 14:17,21 68:20,20
course (1) 13:4,8,12 DESCRIPT... 54:25 Double (1)
7:6 22:18 81:3,4 81:2,13 disbursed (1) 11:10
court (5) 81:5,6 designate (1) 74:12 Douglas (2)
1:2 7:3,14,25 dates (3) 41:17 discuss (3) 32:24 36:5
27:4 19:10 31:14 designated (2) 7:2 35:24 37:9 draft (2)
create (3) 31:19 66:1 1 67:21 discussion (3) 81:10,14
25:9,10,13 day (3) designation ... 41:13 63:3 drink (1)
40:19 44:23
DEITZ Court Reporting... A Lexitas Company
8C0-678-0166
SDNY_GkL00324039
EFTA_00196724
EFTA01306490
WILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 03/05/2020 12:59 P4 INDEX NO. 159224/2016
NYSCEF DOC. NO. 113 RELIVED NYSCEF: 03/05/2020
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48:20 76:20 54:5 55:14 79:2 82:9,10 Extensively ...
drinks (1) education (1) 68:17 examination... 9:14
68:13 10:23 EMT (2) 3:13,22 4:15 exterior (2)
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6:3 82:9 10:22 engineer (1) examination...
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62:21 79:1 34:4 69:10 40:5 3:11,23 5:8
81:1,12 82:2 Elliman (I) entire (1) execute (I) fair (1)
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12:9 Ellmax (54) entities (I) Exhibit (43) fairly (3)
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68:16 70:5 12:3 16:19 25:11 31:2 family (I)
70:18 71:21 employee (3) 32:17 36:11 expensive (1) 67:14
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72:12,20 employees (6) 1:15 5:7,10 explained (1) 19:22 53:17
74:5 75:10 21:7 53:19,23 6:6 66:6 76:7 28:7 fax (1)
75:18 76:13 48:6
DEITZ Court Reporting. .. A Lexitas Company
800-678-0166
SONY_GM_00324040
EFTA_00196725
EFTA01306491
WILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 03/05/2020 12:59 Pt INDEX NO. 159224/2016
NYSCEF DOC. NO. 113 gffivt NYSCEF: 03/05/2020
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fed (2) 18:7,9,12,14 36:14 37:22 generate (1) 82:11
68:13 71:15 18:16,18,19 37:23 38:10 74:8 go (12)
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29:6 19:3,5 20:4 39:25 41:16 74:16 32:16 42:9
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47:13,13,14 follows (I) 51:10 60:22 25:17 50:20 59:23
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59:24 68:13 71:24 72:6 8:1 9:1 10:1 going (12)
fence (2) Foos (1) 72:12 11:1 12:1 6:20 12:25
64:19.21 55:18 full-time (2) 13:1 14:1 23:21 27:20
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41:5 Friday (I) 42:4 67:1 68:1 43:7
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17:2 30:8 fridge (1) 1:5 6:16 71:1 72:1 74:15
floor (3) 48:18 gate (I) 73:1 74:1 head (2)
2:4 49:17 50:8 friend (1) 64:9 75:1 76:1 7:5 15:7
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33:10 friends (1) 69:1 1 73:7 82:8 37:19 45:15
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14:9 17:15 15:9 35:4 generally (2) given (I) held (3)
47:2 48:12 1:1741:13
DEITZ Court Reporting... A Lexitas Company
800-678-0166
SONY_GM_00324041
EFTA_00196726
EFTA01306492
WILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 03/05/2020 12:59 P4 INDEX NO. 159224/2016
NYSCEF DOC. NO. 113 NYSCEF:
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75:22,22 48:24 49:2 invited (1) 24:14,15 lead (1)
51:20,25 26:17 29:25 43:17
DEITZ Court Reporting. .. A Lexitas Company
800-678-0166
SONY_GM_00324042
EFTA_00196727
EFTA01306493
WILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 03/05/2020 12:59 Pt INDEX NO. 159224/2016
NYSCEF DOC. NO. 113
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DEITZ Court Reporting... A Lexitas Company
800-678-0166
SONY_GM_00324043
EFTA_00196728
EFTA01306494
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mid (I) necessary (I) 1:18 3:21,21 offsite (I) paged (1)
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23:5 55:20 81:13
DEITZ Court Reporting... A Lexitas Company
800-678-0166
SONY_GM_00324044
EFTA_00196729
EFTA01306495
WILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 03/05/2020 12:59 P4 INDEX NO. 159224/2016
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DEITZ Court Reporting... A Lexitas Company
800-678-0166
SONY_GM_00324045
EFTA_00196730
EFTA01306496
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record (8) remuneratio... 69:11 70:10 roof (3) 72:17
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56:12 63:20
DEITZ Court Reporting... A Lexitas Company
800-678-0166
SONY_GM_00324046
EFTA_O0196731
EFTA01306497
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DEITZ Court Reporting... A Lexitas Company
800-678-0166
SONY_GM_00324047
EFTA_00196732
EFTA01306498
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DEITZ Court Reporting... A Lexitas Company
800-678-0166
SONY_GM_00324048
EFIA_O0196733
EFTA01306499
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