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1 1 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 2 SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA 3 4 5 6 COPY 7 RE: OPERATION LEAP YEAR 8 9 10 11 12 TESTIMONY 13 OF 14 SPECIAL AGENT E. 15 16 17 18 Federal Grand Jury 07-103 Federal Building 19 U.S. Courthouse West Palm Beach, Florida 20 Tuesday, May 22, 2007 21 22 APPEARANCES: 23 Assistant United States Attorney 24 25 oreperson Exhibit 29 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224077 2 ( 1 The sworn testimony of SPECIAL AGENT 2 was taken before the 3 Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, 4 Federal Building, U.S. Courthouse, Palm Beach 5 County, State of Florida, on Tuesday, May 22, 6 2007. 7 Paula E. Angelocci, Certified Court 8 Reporter and Notary Public, State of Florida, 9 Official Reporting Service, LLC, 524 South Andrews 10 Avenue, Suite 302N, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, 11 33301 , was authorized to and did report the sworn 12 testimony. 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224078 3 1 (Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.) 2 THE FOREPERSON: You do solemnly swear 3 that the testimony you give will be the 4 truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the 5 truth, so help you God? 6 THE WITNESS: I do. 7 THE FOREPERSON: Thank you. Please be 8 seated. 9 EXAMINATION 10 BY MS. 1 1 Q Good afternoon, Special Agent. 12 A Good afternoon. 13 Q Could you remind the grand jury of your 14 name and with whom you are employed? 15 A It's 16 I'm a 17 special agent with the FBI here in West Palm Beach 18 and I work violent crimes. 19 Q Are you the case agent on Operation Leap 20 21 A Yes, I am. 22 Q Okay. Before we get back to our review 23 of the draft proposed indictment, I know that a 24 question was raised regarding whether the grand 25 jury transcripts are being made available to OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224079 4 1 counsel for the defense, are they? 2 A No. 3 Q And is Mr. Epstein considered a high 4 flight risk by the FBI and the U.S. Attorney's 5 Office? 6 A Yes, he is. 7 Q So is the status of the investigation in 8 terms of when an indictment might be returned 9 considered highly confidential? 10 A Yes. 1 1 Q And are there any personal relationships 12 between any members of the U.S. Attorney's Office 13 and counsel for Mr. Epstein? 14 A Yes. 15 Q And is that one of the reasons why we 16 have decided to use, In Re: Abbott, when referring 17 to this case? 18 A Yes. 19 Q Okay. Now we had left off just prior to 20 the beginning of the discussion of Jane Doe Number 21 Five. Could you tell the grand jury a little bit 22 about Jane Doe Number Five? 23 A Jane Doe Number Five is 24 date of birth is We have phone 25 activity that began with when she was 17 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224080 5 1 years old beginning in November of 2004, going 2 through to almost April, I guess, to the end of 3 March 2005. 4 We have contact, telephone contact 5 between and with 6 approximately 70 phone calls in that time period 7 as well as approximately seven phone calls with 8 regarding the setting up of 9 appointments to provide massages to Mr. Epstein. 10 Q Now did explain how she was 1 1 first introduced to Mr. Epstein? 12 A Yes, she did. . was the one 13 that approached also attends 14 High School as well as our other 15 first four girls on the board, the Jane Does up 16 there. 17 told her that she would need to 18 wear something sexy, that she would be providing 19 Mr. Epstein with a massage and that she would 20 receive $200, and if she was asked she should tell 21 Mr. Epstein that she was 18. 22 On the first massage that went 23 to Mr. Epstein's house, she removed her shirt at 24 his request and she performed the massage. She 25 was paid $300 for that massage. OFFICIAL IREPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224081 6 f 1 During that massage, she told Mr. 2 Epstein that she was 18 years of age. He asked 3 her age. They also discussed many things that 4 was interested in. 5 They talked about his ranch. They 6 talked about horses. They actually also talked 7 about cars. At one point later on, Mr. Epstein 8 let's her drive a brand new Lexus, test drive a 9 brand new Lexus. So those were some of her 10 interests and Mr. Epstein talked to her about 11 that. 12 told us that the massages became 13 more sexual in nature and she stated that she did 14 more than ten massages, but that she couldn't 15 quite put a number on how many massages she 16 provided to Mr. Epstein, but it was definitely 17 more than ten. 18 She was not when she was interviewed 19 by the Palm Beach Police Department, she did tell 20 them that it was more around five or six massages. 21 She stated that she minimized to the detectives 22 when they came to interview her. 23 They came to her house and her dad was 24 due home any time and what was foremost on her 25 mind was my dad is going to be here any minute. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224082 7 1 She cooperated. 2 She told them what had happened, but she 3 minimized it more in an effort that she just 4 wanted them to leave before her parents got home. At this point, her parents were not aware of what 6 took place. 7 As the massages became more sexual in 8 nature, she describes that the first sexual 9 massage he always instructed her on what to do, 10 and on the first massage he had asked her to 11 remove her clothing. 12 She was down to her underwear at this 13 point. He asked her 14 15 He at that 16 point reached through her legs and masturbated. 17 On another occasion, she was completely 18 nude and she did several of the massages in the 19 nude for Mr. Epstein. 20 In this particular massage, she stated 21 that Mr. Epstein 22 23 24 She pulled away and he said that he 25 wanted to touch her and that he also wanted to OFFICIAL rFPoRTTNG SFRV CE, LLC EFTA00224083 8 1 taste her. He stopped at that time, but then 2 before the massage was over, he digitally 3 penetrated her again. 4 He had used a back massager on her on at 5 least two occasions. She did not like that and 6 she told him that and he responded something to 7 the effect: What are you scared to have pleasure? a And she told him she didn't like it. 9 On the second to the last massage that 10 gave Mr. Epstein, she was giving him a 1 1 massage and he took her into the bedroom and asked 12 her to get fully unclothed. 13 He actually took a phone call and told 14 her that she should get undressed and lay on the 15 bed completely naked. He just wanted to look at 16 her. He took his phone call. 17 After the phone call was over, he ended 18 up vaginally penetrating Felicia as well as 19 performing oral sex on a. She said that she 20 felt very dirty after that massage or after that 21 time and she had decided that the next massage 22 would be her last massage, that she did not want 23 to go back. 24 During the last massage she gave, she 25 kept looking at the clock. Mr. Epstein commented OFFICIAL RF.PCRTTNO. SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224084 9 1 and noticed that she was looking at the clock and 2 she made reference to that her boyfriend was 3 waiting and Mr. Epstein said that, you know, she 4 was ruining his massage and that if she didn't 5 want to be here she should leave. 6 She told him at this time this would be 7 her last massage. She was paid anywhere from $300 to $600 during the time that she worked for Mr. 9 Epstein. It was who took her upstairs that 10 first time or took her upstairs and set up the 1 1 massage table. 12 She was given some gifts by Mr. Epstein 13 as well. She received bra and pantie sets from 14 him, Victoria Secret bra and pantie sets. She 15 also received a book of poetry from Mr. Epstein. 16 She was Western Unioned a wire of $200 17 as a Christmas bonus to Milk from Mr. Epstein. 18 Q How did I=. get to and from Mr. 19 Epstein's home? 20 A She had a vehicle that she would drive 21 if she didn't ride with one of the other girls. 22 If she was grounded and could not get to Mr. 23 Epstein's house, he would send a car for her. 24 There was a local taxi service and she 25 stated that on several occasions it was a Lincoln OFFICIAL REPORTTNn sppvicE, LLC EFTA00224085 10 1 Town Car that was sent and there was an individual 2 by the name of Dennis that she got to know pretty 3 well on the drives to and from Mr. Epstein's 4 house, but that even when she didn't have 5 transportation on those particular times, that a 6 car was sent for her to bring her to Mr. Epstein's 7 house. 8 Q Is there anything else that you wanted 9 to tell the grand jury about 10 A That's it. 11 Q All right. If I could direct you to the 12 proposed draft indictment, draft proposed 13 indictment, and ask you to look at the Overt Acts 14 that involve Jane Doe Number Five and 15 Specifically Overt Acts 53, 58, 61 , 65, 16 69, 74, 81 , 91 , 98, 107, and 1 1 1 17 Can you explain to the grand jury what 18 the evidence is supporting those Overt Acts? 19 A We have reviewed phone records that 20 indicates that there was telephonic contact 21 between and on those dates as 22 well as IME statements that was 23 arranging the appointments. 24 Q All right. And if I can refer you to 25 Overt Act Number 72, which states on or about OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224086 1 1 1 December 23, 2004, Defendant Epstein caused a 2 Western Union wire transfer order to be sent to 3 Jane Doe Number Five. 4 What evidence do you have to support 5 that? 6 A We have IME statements and we also 7 have the Western Union receipt showing that she 8 received that amount of money. 9 Q And those were in response to a subpoena 10 issued on behalf of this grand jury? 11 A Yes. 12 Q If I could direct you to Overt Act 13 Number 82 involving What is the 14 basis for that Overt Act? 15 A Again, a review of the phone records 16 from and telephone indicate 17 that they had contact at that time. 18 Q And Overt Act Number 88 states that on 19 or about January 26, 2005, Defendant reviewed 20 a telephone message from Jane Doe Number Five. 21 What is the basis for that allegation? 22 A We have reviewed the message pads that 23 were recovered during the execution of the state 24 search warrant and recovered a message that 25 left for confirming an appointment OFFICIAL RRPORTTNC: RFRVTCE, LLC EFTA00224087 12 1 that I have a copy of that if you want me to read 2 that to you. 3 Q Sure. 4 A It's a message for dated January 5 26th, 2005, at 1 :30 p.m. It's from a and it 6 says, in parentheses, you know the number, and it 7 says she is confirming 5:30 p.m. 8 Q All right. And then with respect to 9 Overt Acts Numbers 108 and 1 15 related to 10 in what is the evidence supporting those Overt 11 Acts? 12 A Again, a review of the phone records of 13 and We show that there was MIS 14 telephonic contact on those dates. 15 Q And then if I could refer you to 16 substantive offense Count Number Nine, which is 17 the enticement charge. Can you just remind the 18 grand jury of the evidence supporting that 19 allegation? 20 A On or about those dates, a facility of 21 interstate commerce was used, specifically the 22 telephone between and 23 24 Those telephones were used to set up and 25 arrange appointments for Mr. Epstein. As we OFFICIAL nn PTTmo eFPVTCE, LLC EFTA00224088 13 1 discussed earlier during the massage the sexual 2 activity that took place, the straddling of him by 3 where he began to masturbate between 4 his -- between her legs, excuse me, while she 5 6 7 He digitally penetrated her, as we 8 talked about. 9 and he had sexual 10 intercourse with as well as performed oral 1 1 sex on 12 He paid anywhere from $300 to illillil 13 $600. He provided her with gifts, a poetry book, 14 a Secret underwear. It was 15 who had set up the room with the massage table and 16 set out the oils. 17 And then, of course, we did discuss the 18 private car that was sent to her when she wasn't 19 available to drive herself. He did pay a -- I 20 didn't mention this earlier -- he paid a truck 21 payment for her when she was short on money. So 22 that was another thing that Mr. Epstein provided 23 to and she was 17 during all of this 24 activity. 25 Q All right. And if I could refer you to OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224089 14 1 Count Number 53, which is the sex trafficking 2 offense. Is the information that you just 3 summarized the same information that supports that 4 count? 5 A Yes. The only thing I wanted to tell 6 you regarding her age, she told Mr. Epstein that 7 she was 18 on the first visit. A couple of visits 8 later they discussed her birthday. They were 9 talking about her birthday and her plans for her 10 birthday and Mr. Epstein asked her -- said 11 something to the effect like: You are going to be 12 18? And she said yes. 13 And he said: So you are not 18? She 14 laughed and said no and they kind of laughed and 15 they continued on with the massage. So Mr. 16 Epstein was aware through that conversation that 17 had not yet turned 18. 18 Q All right. 19 Are there any questions 20 regarding before we continue? All 21 right. Let's turn now to Jane Doe Number 22 Six. 23 THE WITNESS: Did we do the count, the 24 traveling count? 25 No, we are not going to OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224090 15 1 do those today. 2 THE WITNESS: Okay. 3 4 Q And if you could tell us Jane Doe Number 5 Six's first name and her date of birth? 6 A Jane Doe Number Six is She 7 also attended High School and her 8 date of birth is 9 Q How did Jane Doe Number Six come to be 10 introduced to Mr. Epstein? 1 1 A . also contacted -- or told 12 about providing massages to Mr. Epstein. She told 13 -- which I'm going to refer to her ase 14 That's what she goes by, but her name is 15 That he wanted cute girls to give him 16 massages and that he would pay $200. 17 We had have contact starting with 18 in July of 2000 between and that 19 phone contact continues until September 2005. 20 Between this time period, we have over 200 -- 21 approximately 225 calls between and 22 23 During first massage, 24 brought over there and was paid $200 by Mr. 25 Epstein. She left. performed the first OFFICIAL PPDriATTMr CIPLIU CE, LLC EFTA00224091 16 1 massage topless. He asked her to take her skirt 2 and her shirt off. 3 She said no at first and later in the 4 massage, the way puts it, is that he talked 5 her into it and she removed her shirt, which she 6 was not wearing a bra at the time. 7 Mr. Epstein fondled her breasts. He 8 asked her to remove her panties and she said no. 9 He masturbated and as soon as he ejaculated, the 10 massage was over. She was paid $200 for that. 11 She, at that point, she did start 12 working for Epstein on a regular basis. She 13 indicated that she had been there hundreds of 14 times over this time period. 15 She told us -- and I'm going to read a 16 quote to you that she said to me or said to not to 17 me but to law enforcement -- she said -- and this 18 is referring to after the first time that she went 19 there. 20 She said I first told him that I had a 21 problem with it, what happened the first time, 22 but $200 for 45 minutes that was a lot for a 23 16 -year -old girl making six bucks an hour. 24 Now that was a statement she made to law 25 enforcement. Going through her phone records and OFFICIAL RFPORTTNn gFRVICE, LLC EFTA00224092 17 1 during her interview with law enforcement, she 2 goes back and forth on whether she is 16 or 17. 3 It's now over a year since she started 4 working -- a year and a half since she started 5 working for Mr. Epstein and going back and trying 6 to retrace her age, she did say that, but we 7 believe at that time she was 17 due to the phone 8 contact. 9 So we are not sure when that first 10 massage started, but the phone contact with 1 1 began in July of '04 when she would have 12 been 17. 13 Q And just to be clear, during that 14 interview with law enforcement, did Alex have 15 access to her phone records? 16 A No. 17 Q And the interviewing officer also didn't 18 have access to those records, correct? 19 A No. 20 Q So she was just saying she couldn't 21 remember if she was 16 or 17 at the time? 22 A Right. 23 As I said, she became kind of a regular. 24 He increased her pay to $300 to $400 as long as he 25 could touch her. She stated that the massages OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224093 18 1 would progress over time and at first she would 2 not take off her panties, then she did. 3 She performed the massages naked. He 4 would rub vagina. He also digitally 5 penetrated He performed oral sex one 6 He would masturbate while rubbing himself on 7 breasts. 8 Later in the times that was 9 performing the massages, he requested that she 10 become sexually involved with 11 Mr. Epstein asked to perform oral sex on 12 and refused and Mr. Epstein told her 13 that if she was to perform oral sex on for 14 five minutes, he would give her another $200. So 15 she did. 16 and engaged in sexual 17 activity less than five times. Mr. Epstein would 18 also partake in that sexual activity as well. On 19 one occasion with all three of them, as we had 20 mentioned earlier in a grand jury session, 21 the massage was over and _was standing up near 22 the massage table and Mr. Epstein 23 penetrated 24 vagina. 25 I think she described it as that he went OFFICIAL RRIDMRTTNG SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224094 19 1 inside her four or five times with his penis and 2 3 4 5 And when he first digitally penetrated 6 her on the first time, she, you know, asked him 7 why he was doing that. He said: Oh, I thought we 8 had done this before. 9 And later he continues to digitally 10 penetrate her. On this occasion, she said: What 1 1 are you doing? 12 13 Q So at the time that that occurred, she 14 still had a rule with him, but the rule was that 15 he would not penetrate her vagina with his penis? 16 A Right. 17 And Mr. Epstein gave we'll talk 18 about several gifts. One of the gifts that Mr. 19 Epstein gave was a 2005 Dodge Neon. It only had 20 seven miles on it. 21 believes that that car was bought 22 for her. We have reason to believe it was most 23 likely rented and we are determining that right 24 now, but he gave her this. 25 It only had seven miles and she gave OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224095 20 1 that back to him before she got out of high 2 school. And she said, and this is her quote: It 3 got too sticky for me. He wanted more than I was 4 willing to give. 5 She stated that Epstein requested her to 6 have sex with him multiple times and also wanted 7 him to -- wanted her to perform oral sex on him 8 and she refused to do that, and Mr. Epstein knew 9 that that was not going to happen. 10 And, again, that's one of the reasons 11 why she ended up giving back the car because it 12 just was getting a little bit, as she referred to, 13 sticky for her. 14 After that occasion, where he did 15 penetrate her vagina, he paid her $1 ,000 after 16 that. Some of the gifts that she received other 17 than the car, she describes that as La 18 Secret underwear and a bra and pantie set she 19 received. 20 She received Christmas bonuses, movie 21 tickets, VIP show tickets. She went to the David 22 Copperfield show. She met with him. She went to 23 the after party. She received a Louis Vuitton 24 bag. 25 was in a play at her high school OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224096 21 1 and Mr. Epstein sent her a dozen roses -- or two 2 dozen roses, I believe, to her high school, had 3 them delivered to her high school while she was 4 performing at this play. 5 He also for her 18th birthday, he flew 6 her to New York for her 18th birthday, and she was 7 flown up there on her birthday and that was done 8 because Mr. Epstein didn't want to have to deal 9 with the parental consent needed to fly somebody 10 under the age of 18 to New York. 11 So on her 18th birthday with his 12 funding, she flew to New York. She received show 13 tickets to the Phantom of the Opera. Epstein was 14 not present in New York at this time. He was 15 called away and was not there. 16 So she does have friends in New York and 17 she stayed with those friends and attended the 18 show that Mr. Epstein had purchased those tickets 19 for. The other thing about is she said that 20 she would get paid every time she would go over 21 there and she said she feels like she went over 22 there hundreds of times. 23 She said that sometimes he would just 24 have her naked watching TV or reading a book. He 25 would sometimes just ask her to lay with him OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224097 22 1 naked. She was still always paid and he would 2 invite her over for breakfast. 3 He would invite her to dinner and 4 sometimes just to use the pool, but that she was 5 always paid for coming over there. 6 Q Let me ask about a couple of other 7 things. You mentioned the specific conversation 8 about she could only fly up on her 18th birthday 9 so that he wouldn't have to get parental consent 10 for her flight? 11 A Yes. 12 Q And you mentioned the delivery of the 13 roses to the high school. In addition to those, 14 were other events that occurred that should have 15 led Mr. Epstein or probably did lead Mr. Epstein 16 to know that she was under the age of 18? 17 A Yes. One of the things that told 18 me is that she believed she stayed with him so 19 long because she believed that he was going to 20 help her get into New York University, NYU. 21 She provided him on multiple occasions 22 paperwork. One being her transcript. Trying to, 23 you know, do what she could to keep her grades up, 24 do what she could in the hopes that Mr. Epstein 25 with his influence residing in New York was going OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224098 23 1 to be able to get her into NYU. 2 That again is one of the reasons why she 3 stayed because she felt that if she held on for 4 so long hoping that this dream would come true. 5 She is currently attending Florida State 6 University and doing very well. 7 Q Do we have any other documentation of 8 receiving payments from someone who worked 9 for Mr. Epstein? 10 A We have Janusz Banasiak. It was a house 1 1 manager for Mr. Epstein and we were able to get 12 his petty cash receipts and in there is a payment 13 that he paid out of his funds to I'll' 14 Q Now was ever shown any photo 15 lineup? 16 A Yes, she was. 17 Q And was she able to identify any of the 18 defendants? 19 A She identified 20 Q And was that the photo array that was 21 shown to her? 22 A Yes, it was. 23 Q Was -- are counsel for the 24 defendants aware of allegations against Mr. 25 Epstein? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224099 24 1 A Yes. 2 Q And have they attempted to discredit 3 her? 4 A Yes. 5 Q And is one of the bases for their 6 attempt to discredit her the fact that she didn't 7 appear before the State Grand Jury? 8 A Yes. 9 Q Are you aware of whether or not Alex was 10 ever subpoenaed to appear before the State Grand 11 Jury? 12 A There was a subpoena issued to her. I'm 13 not sure if she received that. Either she 14 received it the day before or she didn't receive 15 it at all and I would need to check my notes and 16 she is up in Tallahassee, mind you. 17 So she was either served the day before 18 that grand jury convened or she never received it 19 and I would need to check with probably the 20 detective for sure on that. 21 Q Okay. Let's talk about the allegations 22 related to Jane Doe Number Six in the proposed 23 indictment. If I could refer you to Overt Acts 24 Numbers 21 , 26, 34, 38, 49, 51 , 52, 55, 62, 68, 25 and 73. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224100 25 1 If you could tell the grand jury what 2 the evidence is that supports those allegations? 3 A Review of those phone records on those 4 dates indicate that there was telephonic contact 5 between and as well as 6 statements that she was called by prior to 7 and while Mr. Epstein was in town. 8 Q All right. And if I could refer you to 9 Overt Act Number 57, which states on or about 10 December 4, 2004, Defendant provided a 11 written message to Defendant Epstein regarding 12 Jane Doe Number Six and Jane Doe Number Seven. 13 Could you tell the grand jury about 14 that? 15 A We have reviewed message pads that, 16 again, were obtained in the execution of a state 17 search warrant that indicates that left a 18 message for Mr. Epstein regarding and 19 who is Jane Doe Number Seven, and I have 20 that here. If I can read it to you? 21 Q Sure. 22 For Jeffrey, dated 12-4-2004. The time 23 is 2:55 p.m. It's from would like 24 to work at 4 p.m. if possible. In parentheses, 25 is scheduled for 5:00 today. The movie is at OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224101 26 1 7:30. 2 Q Okay. And if I could refer you to Count 3 Number Ten, and if you could summarize for the 4 grand jury -- first, if you could refer to the 5 dates contained in that count, on July 15th, 2004, 6 until December 29th, 2004, what was the 7 significance of those dates? 8 A This would be the time period that 9 is still under the age of 18. 10 Q That she was receiving phone calls from 1 1 someone who worked for Mr. Epstein? 12 A Yes. 13 Q Okay. And then if you could just 14 summarize the remainder of the evidence according 15 to that count? 16 A Okay. On or about those dates a 17 facility of interstate commerce was used, 18 specifically the telephone, specificallyM 19 and telephones were utilized to 20 set up and arrange appointments for Mr Epstein. 21 During the massages, Epstein fondled 22 breasts. Epstein used the back massager 23 and vibrator directly on vagina. Epstein 24 performed oral sex on and Epstein penetrated 25 vagina with his penis. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224102 27 1 Mr. Epstein introduced 2 into the sexual activity with . and 3 engaged in sexual activity while Epstein 4 watched and masturbated. 5 Epstein asked to perform oral sex 6 on and when she refused he offered her $200 7 for five minutes. complied. There were 8 different sex toys used on including a 9 strap -on dildo that i used. 10 Epstein paid $200 up to $1 ,000 11 depending on the sexual activity that took place. 12 had taken upstairs. She set up 13 for the massage. 14 Epstein paid for a trip to New York for 15 her 18th birthday, gave her Phantom of the Opera 16 tickets. He rented or provided a car to 17 He delivered roses to her high school, gave her a 18 Louis Vuitton bag, gave her a Victoria Secret bra 19 and pantie set. 20 He also provided her with a bathing suit 21 on a return trip he had to Brazil. He told her 22 that he was going to help her get into New York 23 University. She believed that was the case. She 24 provided him with her high school transcript and 25 she was 17 at the time. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224103 28 1 Q And with respect to Count Number 54, is 2 that the same evidence that supports that count? 3 A Yes, it does. 4 Q Okay. Before we go on, I know that you 5 mentioned with respect to both Jane Doe Number 6 Five and Jane Doe Number Six that they were 7 introduced to Mr. Epstein by 8 Is another Jane Doe who will be 9 discussed at a later time? 10 A Yes. 11 Any questions about Jane 12 Doe Number Six? 13 Yes. 14 A GRAND JUROR: I don't know if I'm 15 allowed to ask this, and you don't have to 16 answer it, but how did the parents do they 17 ask where she got the car and a Louis Vuitton 18 purse? I mean, how do they not know anything 19 like a car? 20 21 Q Did you -- have you interviewed 22 parents? 23 24 25 A GRAND JUROR: My question is that I OFFICIAL prpnpmtmn 0.-VPV cE, LLC EFTA00224104 29 1 noticed you are skipping all the travel. Is 2 that something that you are going to discuss? 3 In the future. As I 4 mentioned before, there's -- that question 5 is pending and I want to get a definitive 6 answer before we go through that. 7 A GRAND JUROR: I must have missed that. 8 A GRAND JUROR: I don't see a Count 54 9 on this. 10 A GRAND JUROR: Because it is on the 1 1 next page. 12 A GRAND JUROR: Okay. I'm sorry. Thank 13 you. 14 THE WITNESS: Just to answer a question. 15 The Palm Beach Police Department -- did 16 tell the Palm Beach Police Department that 17 her mother believed that she worked there, 18 and I would need to go back and check, but I 19 believe that she worked there as a -- I want 20 to say like an assistant or answered the 21 phones or something like that. 22 And at one point, her mother thought 23 there might have been more going on and 24 actually did end going over there for a 25 time period, but then she did resume later. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224105 30 1 A GRAND JUROR: Okay. 2 Any other questions? 3 4 5 Q And we will turn to Jane Doe Number 6 Seven. Could you tell the grand jury the first 7 name of Jane Doe Number Seven and her date of 8 birth? 9 A Jane Doe Number Seven is and 10 her date of birth is 11 Q How did come to go to Mr. 12 Epstein's house? 13 A worked at the mall, and that 14 through working at the mall, and Or 15 Jane Doe Number Six told that she could 16 make extra money by providing a massage to Mr. 17 Epstein. 18 told her that she may have to be 19 naked for this massage, but if she didn't want to 20 she didn't have to. We have the contact, the 21 telephonic contact between 22 beginning in July 2004 and through 23 November of 2005. 24 There is approximately 100 calls between 25 and there is around OFFICIAL BPDORTTNC SRRVTCE, LLC EFTA00224106 31 1 seven calls, approximately seven calls to 2 in between and and approximately 3 eight calls between and 4 stated that she went about 15 5 times to Mr. Epstein's house. is the 6 first Jane Doe we have talked about that goes to 7 High School and does not attend 8 High School. 9 On first massage, took 10 upstairs for the first massage and set up 1 1 the room. Epstein instructed to leave the 12 room. During the massage, Epstein asked 13 to remove her clothing. She removed only her 14 shirt. 15 described Epstein as being -- 16 she described him as a respective guy, who would 17 converse with her. She said that they discussed 18 different life issues such as where wanted 19 to attend college in the future. 20 He also gave her advice. She didn't 21 have the best credit, so he gave her advice on her 22 credit. He also gives her advice on dealing with 23 her parents. She performed this massage and she 24 was paid $200 for the massage. 25 told us that as the massages OFFICIAL P vs> pmrmn crpirrcE, LLC EFTA00224107 32 1 continued, they would then progress and become 2 more sexual. Epstein would try to go further and 3 further with 4 By the third massage, had 5 completely removed all of her clothing. She was 6 completely nude at Mr. Epstein's respect. Epstein 7 would fondle breasts. 8 He rubbed her vagina. He did not 9 penetrate -- did not digitally penetrate her, 10 She 1 1 would tell him no on occasions and she would also 12 take his hand and remove his hand from places that 13 she did not want him to touch. 14 Mr. Epstein did use a massager directly 15 on vagina while he continued to 16 masturbate during these massages. On at least two 17 occasions, Mr. Epstein -- at Mr. Epstein's 18 direction, assisted in giving the 19 massage. 20 And on -- the first time tells 21 us that was setting up the room and she 22 remained in the room and started to undress. 23 was surprised. 24 She was never asked or told this was 25 going to happen. This is just kind of the way it OFFICIAL rFPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224108 33 1 went. and both massage Mr. Epstein. 2 and Epstein began performing sexual acts in 3 front of 4 Epstein used a massager on 5 vagina in front of as well as they both 6 performed oral sex in front of on each 7 other. also touched breasts. 8 She touched her -- touched 9 vagina. She took hand and placed it on 10 her vagina and pulled it back, pulled It 11 away. 12 did use the massager directly on IIIIII 13 vagina. Some of the gifts that 14 received, she did receive also a bathing suit, 15 which we have from Mr. Epstein's Brazilian trip. 16 She received four tickets for her 18th 17 birthday. Mr. Epstein gave her David Copperfield 18 tickets, and on two occasions Mr. Epstein and 19 , they wired money to 20 In June of 2005, on senior 21 trip, her senior graduation trip, they went to 22 Cancun, Mexico. She ran out of money and they 23 sent her -- wired her, western Unioned her $350, 24 and then she took a trip in July of '05 to San 25 Diego, California, and she also received $200 by OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224109 34 1 Western Union. 2 Q All right. 3 Anything you want to ask 4 before we go to the Overt Acts? No. All 5 right. 6 BY 7 Q If I could refer you first to Overt Act 8 Number 23, which says on July 16th, 2004, 9 Defendant caused Jane Doe Number Six to 10 make one or more telephone calls to a telephone 11 used by Jane Doe Number Seven. 12 Could you explain what the evidence is 13 supporting that? 14 A Yes. A review of phone records from 15 phone and indicated they had 16 telephonic contact at that time. 17 Q And that was following a telephone 18 contact between and Jane Doe Number 19 Six? 20 A Yes, it was. 21 Q All right. And is that consistent with 22 what Jane Doe Number Seven told you about how she 23 was recruited to go to Mr. Epstein's house? 24 A Yes. 25 Q Now with respect to Overt Acts 27, 32, OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224110 35 1 39, 41 , 44, 45, 66, 75, 85, 89, and 90, what is 2 the evidence related to those Overt Acts? 3 A Can we skip 89? 4 Q Oh, yes. Let's skip 89. 5 A A review of the phone records indicate 6 that there was telephonic contact between 7 and on those specific dates as well 8 as the statements of that 9 would call her in advance or call her while Mr. 10 Epstein was in town. 1 1 Q All right. And those records show that 12 the phone calls originated with 13 telephone? 14 A Yes. 15 Q Now if I could direct you to Overt Act 16 Number 57, which says on December 4, 2004, 17 Defendant provided a written message to 18 Defendant Epstein regarding Jane Doe Number Six 19 and Jane Doe Number Seven. 20 Is that the phone message that you 21 mentioned earlier today? 22 A Yes, it is. 23 Q Now we skipped Overt Act Number 89, and 24 can you tell the grand jury what the evidence is 25 related to Overt Act Number 89? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224111 36 1 A That would be a review of the phone 2 records from as well as a review of the 3 phone records from that there was 4 telephonic contact on that day. 5 Q From to telephone? IIIIIIII 6 A Yes. 7 Q And then Overt Act Number 92, can you 8 tell us what the evidence is related to that? 9 A That is on that day a review of their 10 phone records of phone records 1 1 and indicates that there was telephonic 12 contact between the two of them on that date. 13 Q Now if I could refer you to Count Number 14 11 , and if you could summarize for the grand jury 15 what the evidence is related to that count? 16 A On or about these dates, a facility of 17 interstate commerce was used, specifically the 18 telephone, between 19 and 20 These phones were utilized to set up and 21 arrange massage appointments for Mr. Epstein. 22 During the massages, Epstein asked to 23 remove her clothing. 24 Starting with the third massage, 25 was completely nude and Epstein touched OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224112 37 1 breasts. He stroked her vagina. He used a back 2 massager on vagina. He masturbated 3 during the massages. 4 On at least two occasions Epstein 5 involved into the sexual 6 activity. stroked vagina and used 7 the massager on vagina. 8 also placed hand on her 9 vagina, which pulled back. Epstein paid 10 $200 on each these occasions. Epstein 11 also provided her with a bathing suit, four 12 tickets to see David Copperfield on her 18th 13 birthday, provided those tickets for her 18th 14 birthday. 15 Epstein andlIIIIIIWestern Unioned 16 on at least two occasions and Epstein 17 provided with advice dealing with her bad 18 credit, with her parents, and her plans for going 19 to college, and was 17 when all this 20 activity took place. 21 Q Okay. So the dates that appear in Count 22 1 1 run through the day before her 18th birthday, 23 correct? 24 A Yes, they do. 25 Now with respect to Count Number 55, is OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224113 38 1 that the same evidence that relates to the sex 2 trafficking charge? 3 A Yes. 4 Q Okay. And the date ranges between up 5 until she turns 18? 6 A Yes, it is. 7 Q All right. 8 Any questions about Jane 9 Doe Number Seven? All right. We'll go on to 10 Jane Doe Number Eight. 1 1 12 Q And if you could tell the grand jury 13 Jane Doe's first name and her date of birth? 14 Jane Doe Number Eight is 15 was born She attended 16 High School and she had been to Mr. 17 Epstein's house approximately 15 times. 18 Q And who first introduced 19 Epstein? 20 A , Jane Doe Number Six. 21 Q And tell us how that contact began. 22 A told 1mill that she could make 23 $200 if she provided Mr. Epstein with a massage. 24 She told her that she would have to take off her 25 clothes, but that she could keep her underwear on. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224114 39 1 L on the first massage, we have -- I guess 2 should tell you, we have phone contact between 3 and starting February 25, 4 2005, and that phone contact continues through 5 October of 2005. 6 We have over 50 calls between 7 and and we have approximately 25 8 calls between On that ands 9 first massage, brought and set up the 10 massage table. left the room. 11 Shortly after that, Mr. Epstein entered 12 wearing only a towel. massaged Mr. 13 Epstein's leg and back. Mr. Epstein masturdated 14 during this massage. 15 I should tell you that told us 16 that -- told law enforcement, that he has the 17 girls take off their clothes, and in this massage 18 she did remove her clothing down to her underwear. 19 She kept her underwear on. 20 He would touch her breasts and he would 21 also grab her buttock while he was masturbating. 22 The massages became more sexual. Mr. Epstein used 23 24 25 OFFICIAL. REPORTTNn SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224115 40 1 2 On one of the times that she was 3 completely nude, Mr. Epstein had cracked 4 back before and she -- Epstein told to lay S down and that he was going to crack her back like 6 he had done before. 7 When she laid down, Mr. Epstein 8 performed sexual intercourse on illilli 9 10 He gave her an extra 100, $150. 11 She had made $200 up to this point, so it would be 12 300, $350 that Mr. Epstein paid her. 13 On another occasion, illIlk was brought 14 into the massage. and Mr. Epstein engaged 15 in sexual acts while would continue to IIIIIII 16 massage Mr. Epstein. 17 Epstein did ask and ato kiss 18 and he watched as they touched each other. 19 I guess, touched I should say touched 20 breasts and continued to touch Mr. 21 Epstein as well as this all went on. 22 As far as the gifts that Mr. Epstein 23 provided to , he gave her a photography book 24 25 as well as a digital camera. actually gave her IIMI told the camera, but it was per us that OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224116 41 1 Mr. Epstein's instructions. She was 17 at the 2 time all this activity occurred. 3 Q And what did say about Mr. 4 Epstein's knowledge of her age? 5 A She told Mr. Epstein how old she was. 6 She told him that she was 17. 7 Q Now was interviewed shortly after 8 the activity ended, correct? 9 A Yes. 10 Q Do you remember the approximate date 1 1 when Mr. Epstein left Palm Beach County and has 12 returned only for court appearances? 13 A I believe it was October 6th. It was 14 the beginning of October was the last time we have 15 him -- or when he left the area. 16 Q And was interviewed by the police 17 shortly after that time? 18 A Yes, she was interviewed on November 8. 19 Q And during that interview, did she 20 explain when the last time was when she had seen 21 Mr. Epstein? 22 A She had said shortly before her 23 birthday. 24 Q And she said it was actually the first 25 week in October? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224117 42 1 A Yes. 2 Q Now was later called to appear 3 before the State Grand Jury? 4 A Yes. 5 Q And during that testimony, did she 6 did she confuse the last day that she saw Mr. 7 Epstein? 8 A Yes. She stated -- and this was done I 9 believe in July of '06, so this would have been 10 over a year and some months. She did state that 11 the last time she saw Mr. Epstein was the day 12 before her birthday and that is when the sexual 13 intercourse took place. 14 Q Okay. So she thought it was the day 15 before her birthday, but based on her earlier 16 statement and the records that we have, we know it 17 was a few days before her birthday? 18 A The first week of October. 19 Q Okay. 20 Let's -- actually, 21 before we go to the Overt Acts, do you mind 22 if I ask the agent a question outside? I 23 think I caught another error. Excuse us for 24 a moment. 25 and the witness exit the OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224118 43 1 Grand Jury Room.) 2 and the witness enter the 3 Grand Jury Room.) 4 There is a discrepancy 5 in Overt Act Number 138. The chart that I 6 provided to you says -- has the name 7 the relevant defendant and in the indictment 8 So we are trying to confirm 9 who the right caller was. 10 A GRAND JUROR: Can I ask a question? 1 1 Sure. 12 A GRAND JUROR: You had said that he had 13 not been in Florida? 14 Uh-huh. 15 A GRAND JUROR: How do they know that he 16 has not come into Florida? 17 Okay. We can address 18 that withaed the agent. 19 A GRAND JUROR: Could I ask a question? 20 Sure. 21 A GRAND JUROR: Is there any way that he 22 might have been filming this? Does anybody 23 know about it, I mean, you know? 24 Okay. We will answer 25 those after we finish going through these OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224119 44 1 items. 2 A GRAND JUROR: I knew there was a 3 reason you were hauling all those records 4 back and forth. 5 A GRAND JUROR: After the case is over, 6 how long do you actually have to keep all 7 that? 8 This is all on the 9 record. 10 A GRAND JUROR: Yeah. It's curiosity. 11 Okay. All right. 12 BY 13 Q So from your review of the phone 14 records, Special Agent Overt Act 15 Number 138 relates to 16 A Yes. 17 Q Okay All right. Now let's run through 18 Overt Acts 110, 128, 133, 136, 138, 139, 141 , 142, 19 145, 152, 154, and 156. 20 Could you let the grand jury know what 21 the evidence is supporting those Overt Acts? 22 A A review of the phone records indicate 23 on those dates there was telephonic contact 24 between the and as well as IIIIIIIIIIIII 25 statements that called her OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224120 45 1 and in advance as to when Mr. Epstein was in town 2 to set up appointments. 3 Q And if you could look at Overt Acts 124, 4 146, and 149. 5 A A review of phone records between and indicates there was 7 telephonic phone contact on those dates. 8 Q Phone calls originating with 9 ending with 10 A Yes. 1 1 Q And Overt Act Number 147? 12 A Overt Act 147, a review of the phone 13 records indicate that there was telephonic contact 14 between and on that 15 date as well. 16 Q And then Overt Act Number 150, says that 17 on September 8, 2005, Defendant received a 18 telephone call from Jane Doe Number Eight, and 19 what is the evidence related to that? 20 A The evidence on that date is that a 21 review of those phone records indicates that 22 contacted 23 Q So with respect to that one, the phone 24 call originated with as opposed to being 25 win OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224121 46 1 A Yes. 2 Q Okay. Now if you could turn to Count 3 Number 12 and summarize for the grand jury the 4 evidence supporting that charge of the enticement 5 of a minor? 6 A On or about these dates, a facility of 7 interstate commerce was used, specifically the 8 telephone, specifically 9 and phones were 10 utilized to set and arrange massages, massage 1 1 appointments for Mr. Epstein. 12 During the massages, Epstein would ask 13 to remove her clothing. She would perform 14 the massages either in her underwear or completely 15 nude. Epstein masturbated while Milli performed 16 these massages. 17 Epstein used a massager on a 18 vagina with her panties on and with them off. 19 Epstein had intercourse with He 20 ejaculated outside her vagina. 21 On one occasion, Epstein brought 22 into the sexual activity, introduced 23 into the sexual activity. They performed 24 sex acts on each other, that being 25 and Jeffrey Epstein, in front of OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224122 47 1 and she continued to massage Mr. Epstein. 2 At Mr. Epstein's request, and 3 did kiss as well as touched 4 breasts. Epstein paid 200 to 300 to $350 to 5 and that depended on the sexual activity. 6 Epstein gave a book on 7 photography as well as a digital camera provided 8 to her by as well as bra and underwear sets, 9 told Mr. Epstein that she was 17 years 10 of age. 1 1 Q All right. And is that the same 12 evidence with respect to Count Number 56? 13 A Yes, it is. 14 Q Okay. 15 Before we go to those 16 other two questions that were posed, are 17 there any questions that relates to Jane Doe 18 Number Eight? 19 Yes, sir. 20 A GRAND JUROR: Is there any explanation 21 from any of the girls about the number of 22 calls versus the number of times they say 23 they went there? 24 I'm sorry. Say it one 25 more time. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224123 48 1 A GRAND JUROR: The number of times they 2 went to visit versus the number of phone 3 calls. There seems to be a big difference. 4 THE WITNESS: Yes. There's a lot of 5 phone calls and we have phone calls showing 6 up prior to his arrival and during his 7 arrival and some of the phone calls are 8 lengthy and some of them are, you know, 9 seconds. 10 So either maybe they didn't get through. 11 We are looking at a cell phone bill and 12 getting those totals from looking at the cell 13 phone bill and the calls just vary in time 14 length and, you know, the only explanation I 15 guess, you know, would be -- and that's just 16 me giving you my opinion -- is that, you 17 know, either they didn't reach each other, so 18 they would continue to call back and forth. 19 There was a lot of calls between these 20 teenage girls or these adolescent girls as 21 well as the phone activity between and 22 and with the girls. 23 BY 24 Q All right. And also Special Agent 25 I know that you testified about this OFFICIAL xr•pnPPTHn gTORV cE, LLC EFTA00224124 49 1 earlier in terms of the tendency of victims of 2 this type of offense to minimize the number of 3 visits, for example, minimize the conduct that 4 they engaged in? 5 A That is true as well. 6 Q So it is possible that the girls went 7 more than five times or ten times? 8 A Yes. I mean, it's difficult to try to 9 get them to tell you an exact number and that's 10 why we have approximated, and, again, they have 1 1 minimized either with local law enforcement and 12 now when we go back either through time or just 13 being able to -- you know, the approach, they have 14 been able to tell us a little more of what took 15 place. 16 Again, stated she went hundreds of 17 times. Can we put her down to a number? Two 18 hundred and twenty-five phone calls. You know, we 19 just know that she went a lot of times. 20 You can look at the phone activity of 21 seeing the phone calls that are made prior to his 22 arrival and during his arrival to try to gage when 23 they were there. 24 All right. Any other 25 questions related to Jane Doe Number Eight? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224125 50 1 Okay. 2 BY 3 Q Then we have two questions that were 4 raised earlier. One of which was whether there is 5 any evidence to suggest that Mr. Epstein filmed 6 any of these encounters? 7 A We don't have any evidence at this time. 8 Some of girls were asked that question but there's 9 no evidence to show that he did or indicate that 10 he did. 1 1 Q All right. And then the second one was 12 we had talked earlier about Mr. Epstein leaving 13 Florida and not returning. What evidence do you 14 have regarding where Mr. Epstein has been since 15 October of 2005? 16 A He has -- and I may have misspoke if I 17 said he has not ever come back. He has come back 18 because of the state charges he has faced. He has 19 had to come into Palm Beach County for that. 20 We do not believe that he has been here 21 other than that since the investigation broke in 22 October of '05, other than having to appear before 23 the state charges. 24 We know where Mr. Epstein resides and we 25 have a partner, ICE, Immigration and Customs OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224126 51 1 Enforcement, who can -- is helping us monitor his 2 plane activity, and, although, we were not privy 3 to all of his domestic flights when he comes in 4 and out of the country, we are alerted to that. 5 Q And you mentioned earlier that you 6 interviewed Janusz Banasiak, correct? 7 A Yes. 8 Q Who currently serves in what position of 9 Mr. Epstein? 10 A He is currently the house manager for 1 1 Mr. Epstein and maintains the property over in 12 Palm Beach. 13 Q And what did he tell you about Mr. 14 Epstein? 15 A He also said that Mr. Epstein has not 16 been back. 17 Q Okay. 18 Any other questions? 19 All right. You guys get a break next. All 20 right. We will see you -- I will be out of 21 town next week and I will probably see you 22 the week after that. 23 (Witness was excused.) 24 25 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224127 52 1 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER 2 3 I, Paula E. Angelocci, Certified Court 4 Reporter and Notary Public, do certify that the 5 transcript is a true and correct transcription of 6 my stenotype notes of the testimony of 7 SPECIAL AGENT , taken before 8 the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach, Florida. 9 PAULA A- L ANGET CCI, CSR #4869 10 Certified Cou t Reporter 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 . 25 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224128