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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 17:41:11 -0000
Yes. You are correct. I'm on it.
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On Feb 12, 2018, at 12:30 PM, jeffrey E. leevacation@gmail.com> wrote:
no biggy, just in the future and forever, you will be better off, saying I dont know, ill check , otherwise you
will lose credibiltiy
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 12:04 PM, > wrote:
I confirmed with my Adam at MS today on the redemptions just to be certain and I was wrong on Millinium
and Discovery. Well, partially wrong but enough that matters. Millinium is 90 days but in 3 chunks of 33.3%.
Discovery is 45 days but semi annually. Discovery is slightly up based on my investment dates but still under
performing. After we discussed it we decided it was probably time to put in the redemption on Discovery.
Keeping Millinium.
Thanks,
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On Feb 9, 2018, at 9:30 AM, > wrote:
Great. Will check it out.
The bank appraisal was "as is" prior to completion came in at 9M. They said they knew it was obviously
lower than comps but I wanted to close the loan before completing it and they agreed to as is and it was
enough to reach the 6M I wanted. I didn't want more debt than that on the property. The rate is 4.5M at 3%
7Arm and 1.5M at 2.5% 3Arm. My thought was that I would either be in a position to pay of the 1.5 in 3
years or would be selling it. In either case I didn't want to carry that much debt for 7 years so I figured I
would save on the interest for now.
Somewhat, 30-90 days depending on which one. Millennium (Up 40%) / JW Assets (Up 55%) / Discovery
Partners (N/A Online, need to pull from last statement. Will have when ready for bigger discussion)
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Equities have done well the last few years too so it would be significant tax to sell but mostly all cap gains.
My details below. biggest position is Apple and Palo Alto Networks and all long tent Right now I
feel like hold is best option even given the markets but always open to advice.
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Thank you
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On Feb 9, 2018, at 9:10 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote:
kahn academy on line-- 2. no rush, - re valuation of apt did the bank give a valuation , for the
mortgage? . 3. are the hedge funds liquid?
On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 9:03 AM, wrote:
Jeffrey,
I would like a little time to organize everything for a better discussion on the whole financial picture. In
the mean time I'm curious your advice on where you would go for accounting classes. Someone
recommended http://trainingthestreet.com last year or would you recommend taking a class at a
physical or online university. Ideally with work it needs to be something I can do online while traveling
or at least partially. A tutor could also work but would need to find a good one. Any ideas or
suggestions?
Thanks!
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On Feb 7, 2018, at 9:03 AM, > wrote:
Jeffrey, Thank you!
I wasn't ignoring your last request. I was pulling what info I could together. Will report back. It's
become complicated. Easier conversation. But to summarize a few of your questions below.
1. Agreed. The comps in our building are $3500/sq ft. For 2 and 5 floor apt with no outdoor space. If
you take ours 2400 inside 1800 outside and use 50% for outdoor it's roughly valued at 11.550m with
6m of debt. Being a unique space done so well I think you could get more. Spoke to a few brokers that
agree but at the end of the day the market speaks. If EL IPO / CPH income isn't what I expect this
year I would either sell or rent it. I love the place but not going to put us in a bad place again over this
apartment.
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2. There are other significant assets. This is what I was referring to as us sifting down to look at the
whole picture. 1.2cash, 1.6M in equities, 2.7m in hedge funds, lm in Covis ,lm in commerical rent
generating real estate in NC, 1.7m in multifamily that pays quarterly dividends, a basket of other
assets and investments. These are rough numbers off top of my head during break in meetings. I can
get more detailed when not on my phone. Been in meetings all morning in FLL since 745.
Establishment Labs is probably the biggest single investment and doing the best. The "they" is better
in conversation. Not simple answer. I'll get you the details you asked when I get back. Think of it
roughly like this. I paid 3.75/share. The current round is closing at 16/share and IPO roughly 18.50.
Can sell if we want 6month later. I haven't tried to sell my shares but if I wanted to I could have sold
to Perceptive Advisors at that price in last round.
3. Yes it will to finish. I have this modeled out and can get you exact numbers when back to office. It
will take about 75% of the remaining cash from refinancing.
4. Completely agree. This is my biggest weakness in business and it's the most important. I will get on
this ASAP.
5. I have spent a lot of time in factory and with management team and employees. It's a good
management team. Prior to investment and after. Also at trade shows with doctors and KOL's. The top
KOL's has left Allergen and Mentor to EL. Also visited London Hospital Group that has most
experience with EL. I have spent time with Jeffries team as well many times. Michael Robinson
Managing Director of Healthcare Investment Banking and Benjamin Lorello Global Head of
Investmwnt Banking are running point on IPO. They were the ones that set the expected valuation and
time table. Shooting for June right now.
All the best,
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On Feb 7, 2018, at 6:06 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote:
only as a result of you asking for my advice. I suggest the following. 1 real numbers are
needed. real market numbers. ie put the apt on the markeet to see what bids you get. ? ex ask
for 10m . see what happens. 2. re the only other main asset. establishment lab. - the " they" that
you refenced that prefer you not share numbers are not your advisors. . my understanding is that
you have an overide on the 1 st investment of 10 percent. and an investment of lm. there have
been multiple financings in between and more to come. so . establish how many shares you
actually own now. how many total shares there are on a diluted basis... valutation models mean
little .. then have someone do a comp on silmilar cos based in costra rica. . to detiremine possible
future value. but frankly hihgly unlikely in the next 18 months. , in the alternative m, ask to see
how much one of the others w0ould pay for your current positoin. . lm 5m? . then subrtract taxes
on gain. 3. the new york apt. will also require more capital . as it always does.. 4. take some
accounting courses and financila reporting classes.. 5 its all about numbers. i see establishments
PR is geared towards hype and not substance. . its financing of 55m was reported, but said partial
debt. if someone told you that jeffries is thining about taking it public CHECK for yourself. call
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the person at jeffries. the key -accurate numbers and NO SECOND hand info.. hard to believe
that the team doesnt have better photos to put on their web and reports. very odd
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